Posted by bigjohnuk on August 31, 2011, 3:21 pm
Hi,
Can someone help me ID the name of this apple tree. Please see picture
tree01b
Cooking apples or eating?
Cheers
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bigjohnuk
Posted by echinosum on September 1, 2011, 7:52 am
bigjohnuk;934883 Wrote:
> Can anyone give me the name for this apple tree and apples please.
>
> Cooking or eating?
None of them quite look like a Bramley, which must comprise about 99% of
the cookers grown in Britain. Bramley tends to have a rather deep
flower-end to the apple, and a sticky surface. But there is a simple
test for a cooker, taste them when they seem to be ready to pick, and if
they are uneatably acid, then they are cookers.
Very difficult to identify apples to variety positively. Best to take
some, leaf and fruit, to one of the Apple Day events that has an
identification expert. Unfortunately this website, which previously
listed all the apple days around the country, is still showing the 2010
list. 'Apple Day Events' (http://tinyurl.com/ylpv7qy )
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Posted by phorbin on September 1, 2011, 1:34 pm
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...
>
> bigjohnuk;934883 Wrote:
> > Can anyone give me the name for this apple tree and apples please.
> >
> > Cooking or eating?
> None of them quite look like a Bramley, which must comprise about 99% of
> the cookers grown in Britain. Bramley tends to have a rather deep
> flower-end to the apple, and a sticky surface. But there is a simple
> test for a cooker, taste them when they seem to be ready to pick, and if
> they are uneatably acid, then they are cookers.
FWIW
Pie Apples/Cooking Apples (usu. Northern Spy when I was a kid) were tart
but not acid and had solid, crisp flesh. Crab apples were sour,
sometimes running to bitter, but not acid.
I don't think I've ever experienced an apple that I would call acidic.
-- Acidic IME belongs to citrus or pineapple and the like.
Posted by Steve Peek on September 2, 2011, 10:38 am
> @gardenbanter.co.uk says...
>>
>> bigjohnuk;934883 Wrote:
>> > Can anyone give me the name for this apple tree and apples please.
>> >
>> > Cooking or eating?
>> None of them quite look like a Bramley, which must comprise about 99% of
>> the cookers grown in Britain. Bramley tends to have a rather deep
>> flower-end to the apple, and a sticky surface. But there is a simple
>> test for a cooker, taste them when they seem to be ready to pick, and if
>> they are uneatably acid, then they are cookers.
> FWIW
> Pie Apples/Cooking Apples (usu. Northern Spy when I was a kid) were tart
> but not acid and had solid, crisp flesh. Crab apples were sour,
> sometimes running to bitter, but not acid.
> I don't think I've ever experienced an apple that I would call acidic.
> -- Acidic IME belongs to citrus or pineapple and the like.
Sound like one of the English cider apples. I don't believe anyone other
than a very experienced apple collector could possibly ID an apple other
that the common varieties. 200 years ago there were thousands of different
apples, every seed that sprouts potentially a different apple. They don't
come true to seed!
Posted by phorbin on September 2, 2011, 8:44 pm
speek@ioa.com says...
> > Pie Apples/Cooking Apples (usu. Northern Spy when I was a kid) were tart
> > but not acid and had solid, crisp flesh. Crab apples were sour,
> > sometimes running to bitter, but not acid.
> >
> > I don't think I've ever experienced an apple that I would call acidic.
> > -- Acidic IME belongs to citrus or pineapple and the like.
>
> Sound like one of the English cider apples. I don't believe anyone other
> than a very experienced apple collector could possibly ID an apple other
> that the common varieties. 200 years ago there were thousands of different
> apples, every seed that sprouts potentially a different apple. They don't
> come true to seed!
Ah... Live and learn.
In Canada when I was growing up, there were three varieties of apple
widely available as well as the wild things we called crab apples that
made a very good jelly.
There may have been such things as cider apples but... apple cider was
more of a legend than reality.
>
> Cooking or eating?