I planted by seed this year and didn't do a good job of marking which
was which. What I thought were watermelon plants, clearly aren't. They
have leaves like cucumbers but seem to be in clusters, rather than
alternate. They also have stronger points on the leaves than cucumbers.
My hope is that I'm growing something other than just cukes! Not a
big deal as eventually I will know! It seems like there should be a
cucurbit taxonomy reference, but I can't find it.
Jeff
Posted by David Hare-Scott on May 13, 2010, 8:30 pm
Jeff Thies wrote:
> I planted by seed this year and didn't do a good job of marking > which was which. What I thought were watermelon plants, clearly > aren't. They have leaves like cucumbers but seem to be in clusters, > rather than alternate. They also have stronger points on the leaves > than cucumbers. > My hope is that I'm growing something other than just cukes! Not a > big deal as eventually I will know! It seems like there should be a > cucurbit taxonomy reference, but I can't find it. > Jeff
While your cucurbit seedlings may look slightly different (or not) it is
very hard to say which is which unless you have a known exemplar to compare
against, even then they may be so similar that you cannot be sure. There is
no simple rule like 'all cucumbers have a ....." or 'all watermelons lack
....' You will probably have to wait until they grow up when the
differences are clearer.
You should pay closer attention in future as they don't grow to the same
size and you should allow for this when planting if you don't want your
pumpkin to stomp on everything else.
David
Posted by Billy on May 14, 2010, 1:29 am
> Jeff Thies wrote: > > I planted by seed this year and didn't do a good job of marking > > which was which. What I thought were watermelon plants, clearly > > aren't. They have leaves like cucumbers but seem to be in clusters, > > rather than alternate. They also have stronger points on the leaves > > than cucumbers. > > My hope is that I'm growing something other than just cukes! Not a > > big deal as eventually I will know! It seems like there should be a > > cucurbit taxonomy reference, but I can't find it. > > > > Jeff > > While your cucurbit seedlings may look slightly different (or not) it is > very hard to say which is which unless you have a known exemplar to compare > against, even then they may be so similar that you cannot be sure. There is > no simple rule like 'all cucumbers have a ....." or 'all watermelons lack > ....' You will probably have to wait until they grow up when the > differences are clearer. > > You should pay closer attention in future as they don't grow to the same > size and you should allow for this when planting if you don't want your > pumpkin to stomp on everything else. > > David
With grapes you need to see the flower, the cluster, and the seeds. A
tall order in spring.
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- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
>> Jeff Thies wrote: >> > I planted by seed this year and didn't do a good job of marking >> > which was which. What I thought were watermelon plants, clearly >> > aren't. They have leaves like cucumbers but seem to be in clusters, >> > rather than alternate. They also have stronger points on the leaves >> > than cucumbers. >> > My hope is that I'm growing something other than just cukes! Not a >> > big deal as eventually I will know! It seems like there should be a >> > cucurbit taxonomy reference, but I can't find it. >> > >> > Jeff >> >> While your cucurbit seedlings may look slightly different (or not) it is >> very hard to say which is which unless you have a known exemplar to compare >> against, even then they may be so similar that you cannot be sure. There is >> no simple rule like 'all cucumbers have a ....." or 'all watermelons lack >> ....' You will probably have to wait until they grow up when the >> differences are clearer. >> >> You should pay closer attention in future as they don't grow to the same >> size and you should allow for this when planting if you don't want your >> pumpkin to stomp on everything else. >> >> David >With grapes you need to see the flower, the cluster, and the seeds. A >tall order in spring.
When we bought our last muscadines we got them in the fall. We asked
the owner of the nursery about which were muscadines (purple) and
which were scuppernongs (bronze). He said they are out in the side
area and many have grapes on them. So we looked around and sampled
some of the grapes and bought the ones we liked the taste of. Only
way to buy them.
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Posted by Billy on May 13, 2010, 8:40 pm
> I planted by seed this year and didn't do a good job of marking which > was which. What I thought were watermelon plants, clearly aren't. They > have leaves like cucumbers but seem to be in clusters, rather than > alternate. They also have stronger points on the leaves than cucumbers. > > My hope is that I'm growing something other than just cukes! Not a > big deal as eventually I will know! It seems like there should be a > cucurbit taxonomy reference, but I can't find it. > > Jeff
Seems like you bit off a big one.
The book you want is
Cucurbits (Crop Production Science in Horticulture) (Paperback)
~ D Decker-Walters (Author), R W Robinson (Author)
<(Amazon.com product link shortened)
0851991335>
My library doesn't have it, and at $60, Amazon is out of stock.
http://delta-intkey.com/angio/ looks like it could be useful, but I'm
out of my league with it.
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- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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> which was which. What I thought were watermelon plants, clearly
> aren't. They have leaves like cucumbers but seem to be in clusters,
> rather than alternate. They also have stronger points on the leaves
> than cucumbers.
> My hope is that I'm growing something other than just cukes! Not a
> big deal as eventually I will know! It seems like there should be a
> cucurbit taxonomy reference, but I can't find it.
> Jeff