Homemade Insecticides - Tobaco

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Posted by DavidofWales on February 14, 2011, 6:59 pm
 
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Hi I'm wondering if I could boil some tobaco in water and use the
resulting solution to spray on vedge as an insecticde? If so, what are
the ratios and will my vedge be ok to eat or will they become toxic?
Will they even be damaged by the spray?


If not does anybody else know of any cheap homemade alternatives to the
store bought stuff.  I'm really trying to keep costs to a minimum this
year givien my skintness!


Many thanks

Dave




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DavidofWales



Posted by Nad R on February 14, 2011, 10:46 pm
 
I think your completely stupid! Flirting with death. A concentration of
nicotine on your skin and you could end up dead! One pack of Sigs to make
Nicotine TEA concentration is a top ten way for people committing suicide!
Dead before you hit the floor. Danger Danger Will Robinson!

Do Not Think Of Even Doing This!

The cost of one pack of Sigs, one can buy a bottle of Seven for bug
extermination and be far far safer... Seven will be safer to use than
concentrated nicotine!

What do you want to win "The Darwin Award"?
Or end up on the TV show "1001 ways to die"?

I cannot believe I am typing this, probably a gag!
What ever made you think of doing this?

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Enjoy Life... Nad R  (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Posted by FarmI on February 15, 2011, 12:34 am
 
Nad is actually suggesting that you use a product called Sevin (not Seven).
The active ingredient of Sevin is Carbaryl.

Carbaryl is highly toxic to both bees and earthworms and it is reputed to be
a human carcinogen and to cause neuropathic damage to humans and a number of
domestic pet species and has a raft of other negatives attached to it's
name.

I would not recommend the use of Sevin even for someone I disliked as it is
crosses through human skin barrier.  Carbaryl has been banned in quite a few
western countries including the UK where you seem to be posting from so you
shouldn't be able to buy it anyway.  The US has not yet banned this nasty
product.
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoservices/pesticidefactsheets/toxic/CARBARYL.HTM
http://www.grandcountywater.com/CarbarylInsecticideHazardData.htm  



Posted by Nad R on February 15, 2011, 1:43 am
 
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoservices/pesticidefactsheets/toxic/CARBARYL.HTM

Thanks for correcting me on Sevin :)

That is true about Sevin. I do not use on Veggies. I do keep a bottle for
my last  rose bush. When the last rose bush goes to the great compost pile,
 I hope soon, the Sevin will go also. Some one felt I should keep at least
one Rose, I still do not have a good reason thou.

I was like having the thought, Sevin is a better product than Nicotine.
Both are toxic. The US has not banned Tobacco yet here either. Both should
be banned. Not much is illegal here in the US, if it is illegal, it is not
enforced.

Yea I know it is 1:30AM here and I am not thinking straight.

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Enjoy Life... Nad R  (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Posted by David Hare-Scott on February 14, 2011, 11:07 pm
 DavidofWales wrote:

Nicotine is very poisonous, the only reason that smokers survive as long as
they do is because most of the nicotine in each smoke is destroyed by heat.
Such a solution will be quite toxic, do not ingest it or allow children pets
etc to get to it.

If so, what are

These are two important issues.  You won't know exactly how strong your
solution is because different tobaccos contain various amounts of nicotine
and the amount extracted into solution will depend on the conditions of the
extraction.  Thus you won't know how much you can (should) dilute while it
remains effective nor will you know the withholding period.  There may be
information to help with these available on the web but there is a risk that
it is not reliable.

Consider this recipe (the first one that I found).

http://www.ehow.com/how_5459005_make-mix-tobacco-nicotine-spray.html

It says a cup of chewing tobacco for a gallon of water and that the spray is
only effective for a few hours.  I have no idea if either of these things is
correct.  A cup of tobacco doesn't seem very cheap to me but I don't buy
tobacco.  I suppose you could collect butts at places where smokers
congregate, you would have to dress the part, maybe carry a bottle in a
brown paper bag and rub dirt into your face and hands.

It also says soap will dissolve the bodies of soft bodied insects which is
not true.  You takes your chances with what you find on the web.  The soap
will act as a wetting agent allowing the liquid to wet both leaves and
insects which will improve the amount the insects ingest, so it is useful.



I doubt it.

David