Posted by Billy Rose on June 21, 2007, 10:08 pm
>
> >Used to do some mean 4 part Gregorian Chants. "Lydah Rose, oh, Lydah
> >Rose",
>
>
> Lydia oh Lydia, say have you met Lydia,
>
> Lydia, the Tattooed Lady......
>
> (sorry, couldn't help myself. See here
> http://www.clown-ministry.com/index_1.php?/site/articles/lyrics_to_lydia_the_t
> atooed_lady_sung_by_groucho_marx_in_the_marx_brothers/
You can learn a lot from Lydia.
--
Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
Posted by raeannsimpson on June 17, 2007, 7:32 am
On Jun 17, 1:26 am, Charlie wrote:
> wrote:
> >> Grasses (corn) and most grains are self-pollinating, Dave. That is one
> >> of the fears, that mankind may have to adapt to a diet that is based
> >> more upon grains. But so much land is being converted to biofuel
> >> production.
> >Between the natural gas for fertilizers and the petroleum for
> >insecticides and fuel to get it to market, we get about a calorie out
> >for every OPEC calorie put in. Clever? The oil companies look green for
> >giving us bio-fuels? Puleeese. It is a freakin' giant rip off and all
> >our representatives are playing(?) dumb. Just say "bah" and follow the
> >sheep in front of you.
> You think anyone is listenin' to us, Billy?
I wasn't then, but I'm reading ya now..................that was way
past my bedtime!
> >> The whole biofuel issue is a *bad thing*. Food is being removed from
> >> diets and pumped into fuel tanks. People are already going hungry and
> >> being displaced, and killed, over the rush to biofuel prduction.
> >> It is a serious issue that appears we have no answer for at the moment.
> >> It is seriously underfunded, as far as research goes.
> >> Perhaps Gaia has had enough of us. Endgame.
> >> Care, and love like there is no tomorrow, for perhaps there aren't too
> >> many more
> >> Charlie
> >- Bill
> >Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (Sheldon is a jerk)
> When the last living thing
> has died on account of us,
> how poetical it would be
> if Earth could say,
> in a voice floating up
> perhaps
> from the floor
> of the Grand Canyon,
> "It is done."
> People did not like it here.
> --Kurt Vonnegut- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Posted by raeannsimpson on June 17, 2007, 7:30 am
On Jun 17, 12:14 am, Charlie wrote:
> wrote:
> ><Charlie> wrote in message
> >> We could be heading for a massive die-off, and I'm not talkin' bout the
> >> bees.......I'm talkin' 'bout us.
> >> I know this has been talked to death, but solutions aren't appearing,
> >> whilst excuses are rampant.
> >> Charlie
> >> ------------------
> >>http://alternet.org/environment/53491/
> >> Colony Collapse: Do Massive Bee Die-Offs Mean an End to Our Food System
> >> as We Know it?
> >> Excerpt:
> >> "It is real," argued Dewey M. Caron, professor of entomology at the
> >> University of Delaware and one of several authorities investigating the
> >> issue with the Mid-Atlantic Apiculture Research and Extension
> >> Consortium's Colony Collapse Disorder Working Group (MAAREC). "We
> >> surveyed a few states and figured out that half to three-fourths of a
> >> million bee colonies have died. This is no urban legend. It is
> >> serious."
> >> What is so serious is not only that the bees themselves are dying off
> >> without a smoking gun present, but that most people have no idea of the
> >> role they play in the food supply at large. Commercial beehives
> >> pollinate over a third of America's crops, and that web of nourishment
> >> encompasses everything from fruits like peaches, apples, cherries,
> >> strawberries and more, to nuts like California almonds, 90 percent of
> >> which are helped along by the honeybees. Without this annual
> >> pollination, you could conceivably kiss those crops goodbye, to say
> >> nothing of the honey bees produce or the flowers they also fertilize.
> >> But as the world has grown, so has its hunger and crowds, which has
> >> paved the way for the death of wild pollinators as well as the
> >> importation of honeybees from different climates in order to have
> >> massive crop pollination.
> >> In the case of California's aforementioned almonds, the largest managed
> >> pollination event in the world, the growing season occurs in February,
> >> well before local hives have suitably increased their populations to
> >> handle the pollination load. As a result, the region is increasingly
> >> dependent on the importation of hives from warmer climates.
> >> The same goes for apple crops in New York, Washington and Michigan, as
> >> well as blueberries in Maine. Almonds alone require more than one-third
> >> of all the managed honeybees in the United States, so it's entirely
> >> possible that the honeybees may have already been stretched to the
> >> breaking point, as far as environmental and chemical stressors are
> >> concerned. In fact, it's safe to say that the nation's honeybees,
> >> already a tireless lot, are totally exhausted from work.
> >> "The honeybee is so important for pollination of hundreds of
> >> agricultural crops, because humans have made it so," Caron explained.
> >> "We destroyed the natural pollinators, plowed up the area they needed
> >> to live and continued to replace their habitats with strip malls and
> >> housing developments. So, farmers have come to rely on honeybees
> >> because of mushrooming human populations and our own destructive habits
> >> to the natural ecology."
> >> And not just here, either: The disappearance is under way across the
> >> world. Regions of Iran are experiencing the same phenomenon, as are
> >> countries like Poland, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland,
> >> Germany and more every day, including Latin American and Asia. The
> >> breadth of the problem suggests that a major environmental balance
> >> could be to blame -- what else is new? -- yet no authority will sign
> >> off on the possibility and the specific causes still remain unknown.
> >> "Other countries are also experiencing serious declines of honeybee
> >> colonies," said Maryann Frazier, senior extension associate at MAAREC
> >> and the department of entomology at Penn State University. "But we are
> >> not certain that the cause behind the losses here in the United States
> >> are the same as those causing [losses] in other parts of the world."
> >> Throw in the fact that this type of thing has been recorded as a
> >> regular occurrence since the 19th century, and you have an apiary
> >> mystery of mammoth proportions.
> >> "Bee colonies die all the time," Caron added. "They die over winter,
> >> lose queens, are destroyed by pests or diseases. But this is different,
> >> as the bees are simply gone and do not develop normally."
> >> "We have had honeybee die-offs in the past which may or may not be
> >> related to the current situation," said Frazer. "However, they seem to
> >> be getting more severe. If the problem of honeybee health isn't
> >> addressed quickly, there could be serious consequences."
> >Okay, I'll bite. What is the natural pollinator for wheat and corn, our
> >largest crops that feed both us and our meat producing animals, and make
> >fuel to boot? These gone, yep, major problems for us.
> >Dave
> Grasses (corn) and most grains are self-pollinating, Dave. That is one
> of the fears, that mankind may have to adapt to a diet that is based
> more upon grains. But so much land is being converted to biofuel
> production.
> The whole biofuel issue is a *bad thing*. Food is being removed from
> diets and pumped into fuel tanks. People are already going hungry and
> being displaced, and killed, over the rush to biofuel prduction.
> It is a serious issue that appears we have no answer for at the moment.
> It is seriously underfunded, as far as research goes.
> Perhaps Gaia has had enough of us. Endgame.
> Care, and love like there is no tomorrow, for perhaps there aren't too
> many more
> Charlie- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Hey Charlie,
Sounds like you've been reading my profiles! (not just here, but
yahoo, AIM, etc.)
I often have quotes like "love like there is no tomorrow", "time waits
for no one", etc. I know they sound cliche, but they are "oh so true"
in this day and age........
"Treasure every moment you have. You will treasure it even more when
you can share it with someone special."
Rae
Posted by Kimberly on June 17, 2007, 11:35 am
[snipped wonderful gardening stuff]
though I
| wonder if they get confused by the fake flowers the neighbors have in
their
| yard in pots...
My biggest pet peeve of all time. What are they thinking? Real flowers
never get confused. Only silly people do that. ;)
Kimberly
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> >Used to do some mean 4 part Gregorian Chants. "Lydah Rose, oh, Lydah
> >Rose",
>
>
> Lydia oh Lydia, say have you met Lydia,
>
> Lydia, the Tattooed Lady......
>
> (sorry, couldn't help myself. See here
> http://www.clown-ministry.com/index_1.php?/site/articles/lyrics_to_lydia_the_t
> atooed_lady_sung_by_groucho_marx_in_the_marx_brothers/