Posted by Bert Hyman on August 8, 2010, 11:02 am
Our neighbors' giant maple trees continue to encroach on our view of the
sky and the sunniest parts of our garden now get only about 2 or 3 hours
of direct sun during the summer. With the economy the way it is, they're
not interested in any serious pruning for a while. Other than a
fortuitous windstorm or maple blight, we're probably stuck this way for
years.
The growing season in Minnesota is short enough without this additional
handicap.
Can artificial light speed up the ripening of outdoor tomatoes? Can it
be done without us ending up with tomatoes at $10/each?
We only have 3 plants, which used to be enough; two "early" varieties
and one conventional. One of the early plants will have some fruit ready
this coming week, but September is coming fast.
I see Web sites selling all sorts of lighting systems, but I'd like to
hear from people who aren't trying to sell me anything.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
Posted by Billy on August 8, 2010, 12:00 pm
> Our neighbors' giant maple trees continue to encroach on our view of the
> sky and the sunniest parts of our garden now get only about 2 or 3 hours
> of direct sun during the summer. With the economy the way it is, they're
> not interested in any serious pruning for a while. Other than a
> fortuitous windstorm or maple blight, we're probably stuck this way for
> years.
>
> The growing season in Minnesota is short enough without this additional
> handicap.
>
> Can artificial light speed up the ripening of outdoor tomatoes? Can it
> be done without us ending up with tomatoes at $10/each?
>
> We only have 3 plants, which used to be enough; two "early" varieties
> and one conventional. One of the early plants will have some fruit ready
> this coming week, but September is coming fast.
>
> I see Web sites selling all sorts of lighting systems, but I'd like to
> hear from people who aren't trying to sell me anything.
Is there any place where a pot would get more light than your garden?
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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Posted by Arkansas Cracker on August 8, 2010, 3:57 pm
> Our neighbors' giant maple trees continue to encroach on our view of the
> sky and the sunniest parts of our garden now get only about 2 or 3 hours
> of direct sun during the summer. With the economy the way it is, they're
> not interested in any serious pruning for a while. Other than a
> fortuitous windstorm or maple blight, we're probably stuck this way for
> years.
> The growing season in Minnesota is short enough without this additional
> handicap.
> Can artificial light speed up the ripening of outdoor tomatoes? Can it
> be done without us ending up with tomatoes at $10/each?
> We only have 3 plants, which used to be enough; two "early" varieties
> and one conventional. One of the early plants will have some fruit ready
> this coming week, but September is coming fast.
> I see Web sites selling all sorts of lighting systems, but I'd like to
> hear from people who aren't trying to sell me anything.
> --
> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN b...@iphouse.com
If their tree is comming over your property line you can always prune
it yourself. You better come up with a solutions quick in time to can
them.
Posted by David Hare-Scott on August 9, 2010, 1:02 am
Bert Hyman wrote:
> Our neighbors' giant maple trees continue to encroach on our view of
> the sky and the sunniest parts of our garden now get only about 2 or
> 3 hours of direct sun during the summer. With the economy the way it
> is, they're not interested in any serious pruning for a while. Other
> than a fortuitous windstorm or maple blight, we're probably stuck
> this way for years.
> The growing season in Minnesota is short enough without this
> additional handicap.
> Can artificial light speed up the ripening of outdoor tomatoes? Can it
> be done without us ending up with tomatoes at $10/each?
> We only have 3 plants, which used to be enough; two "early" varieties
> and one conventional. One of the early plants will have some fruit
> ready this coming week, but September is coming fast.
> I see Web sites selling all sorts of lighting systems, but I'd like to
> hear from people who aren't trying to sell me anything.
With the cost of the lights and the power to run them it hardly seems worth
it to me.
How about this (I am making this up as I go along, never tried it) Could
the light intensity be enhanced cheaply with mirrors? I am thinking of an
arrangement on the three sides not facing the sun that would reflect on to
the plants. Maybe even a curved panel behind the plants. Not glass which
is always expensive but aluminium foil laid over (say) cardboard or whatever
is laying about. Or maybe thick plastic sheet like used for real estate
signs (called coreflute here) painted with silver paint. It would cost very
little and last long enough to find out if something more permanent is
worthwhile.
David
Posted by phorbin on August 9, 2010, 8:31 am
> How about this (I am making this up as I go along, never tried it) Could
> the light intensity be enhanced cheaply with mirrors? I am thinking of an
> arrangement on the three sides not facing the sun that would reflect on to
> the plants. Maybe even a curved panel behind the plants. Not glass which
> is always expensive but aluminium foil laid over (say) cardboard or whatever
> is laying about. Or maybe thick plastic sheet like used for real estate
> signs (called coreflute here) painted with silver paint. It would cost very
> little and last long enough to find out if something more permanent is
> worthwhile.
A bit late for this but it may trigger a thought or two for the OP.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p 532&cat=2,2300,33272
I would bet a diffused light would be better than concentrated, esp.
with a curved surface (shades of tomato sauce on the vine).
The best thing that could be done is to open a slot by cutting off the
limbs at, or beyond the property line.
I'm doing that right now to limit certain certain trees' drip line and
root system and keep as much shade as possible off a couple of gardens
and two apple trees (and to forestall an early snowfall like we had two
years ago taking down trees and power lines).
> sky and the sunniest parts of our garden now get only about 2 or 3 hours
> of direct sun during the summer. With the economy the way it is, they're
> not interested in any serious pruning for a while. Other than a
> fortuitous windstorm or maple blight, we're probably stuck this way for
> years.
>
> The growing season in Minnesota is short enough without this additional
> handicap.
>
> Can artificial light speed up the ripening of outdoor tomatoes? Can it
> be done without us ending up with tomatoes at $10/each?
>
> We only have 3 plants, which used to be enough; two "early" varieties
> and one conventional. One of the early plants will have some fruit ready
> this coming week, but September is coming fast.
>
> I see Web sites selling all sorts of lighting systems, but I'd like to
> hear from people who aren't trying to sell me anything.