Posted by Bill who putters on May 17, 2010, 2:56 pm
They may be able to handle partial sun. So I give it a go.
<http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html>
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Posted by David Hare-Scott on May 17, 2010, 7:05 pm
Bill who putters wrote:
> They may be able to handle partial sun. So I give it a go.
> <http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html>
Well you learn something every day. I don't know pawpaw was indigenous to
north America.
It seems odd that the article says they are not yet grown commercially. I
suppose they mean in the USA
David
Posted by Dan L. on May 17, 2010, 9:02 pm
> Bill who putters wrote:
> > They may be able to handle partial sun. So I give it a go.
> >
> > <http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html>
>
> Well you learn something every day. I don't know pawpaw was indigenous to
> north America.
>
> It seems odd that the article says they are not yet grown commercially. I
> suppose they mean in the USA
>
> David
I got this book at Costco, called "Grow Fruit (Paperback) by Alan
Buckingham" ISBN-10: 0756658896. On page 310 states that "This native
fruit will grow well in all parts of the United States EXCEPT colder
parts of New England and the upper Midwest and coastal areas with cool
summers.
The Web article indicates that pawpaws can be grow in zone 5 areas
including the Great Lakes area? I am in a zone 5 in the upper Midwest
state called Michigan with cool summers. I do not know of anyone around
here that grows pawpaws. So is New Jersey considered a cool summer state
in the New England area?
My book and the web article seems to have some contradictions. Give us
an update on how it turns out. I might give it try in Michigan.
Also the book states that "unripe fruit can cause stomach upsets". One
reason for not growing commercially? Lawsuits? Shipping time/ripeness
too long?
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Enjoy Life... Dan
Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.
Posted by Pat Kiewicz on May 18, 2010, 7:21 am
Dan L. said:
>I got this book at Costco, called "Grow Fruit (Paperback) by Alan
>Buckingham" ISBN-10: 0756658896. On page 310 states that "This native
>fruit will grow well in all parts of the United States EXCEPT colder
>parts of New England and the upper Midwest and coastal areas with cool
>summers.
>The Web article indicates that pawpaws can be grow in zone 5 areas
>including the Great Lakes area? I am in a zone 5 in the upper Midwest
>state called Michigan with cool summers. I do not know of anyone
>around here that grows pawpaws.
Paw paws grow in Michigan. For one thing, they named a whole town
after them.
There used to be a state record paw paw tree in Dodge Park in Sterling
Heights (may still be there, but I know this from more than twenty
years back).
Paw paws are a tree of the Carolinian forest bottomlands (moist
understory). Think oak - hickory - hackberries - tulip trees. You
can find this forest type in southern Michigan and even SW Ontario.
Where the dominant broadleaf forest is beech - maple, no paw paws.
>My book and the web article seems to have some contradictions. Give us
>an update on how it turns out. I might give it try in Michigan.
If you've got the right site, you could do it. I know I don't ( too high
and dry).
>Also the book states that "unripe fruit can cause stomach upsets". One
>reason for not growing commercially? Lawsuits? Shipping time/ripeness
>too long?
They grow and ship persimmons. Have you ever tried an unripe
persimmon? Nasty!
Not conducive to orcharding, I should think, based on its preferred
growing conditions, and the fact that it is not bee pollinated (so
often suffers poor pollination when grown in cultivation).
The fruits are also enormously popular among the wildlife set (foxes,
racoons, oppossums and squirrels). They are also fragile with a
short shelf life and filled with large seeds (so, not ideal for selling
as fresh fruit).
I know there are probably some paw paw trees growing near me
(probably down along the Rouge River) as I have seen the occassional
Zebra swallowtail butterfly in my yard.
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawpaw
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nutrients..." --Largo Potter, Valkyria Chronicles
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Posted by Dan L. on May 18, 2010, 5:32 pm
In article
> Dan L. said:
> >
> >I got this book at Costco, called "Grow Fruit (Paperback) by Alan
> >Buckingham" ISBN-10: 0756658896. On page 310 states that "This native
> >fruit will grow well in all parts of the United States EXCEPT colder
> >parts of New England and the upper Midwest and coastal areas with cool
> >summers.
> >
> >The Web article indicates that pawpaws can be grow in zone 5 areas
> >including the Great Lakes area? I am in a zone 5 in the upper Midwest
> >state called Michigan with cool summers. I do not know of anyone
> >around here that grows pawpaws.
>
> Paw paws grow in Michigan. For one thing, they named a whole town
> after them.
>
> There used to be a state record paw paw tree in Dodge Park in Sterling
> Heights (may still be there, but I know this from more than twenty
> years back).
>
> Paw paws are a tree of the Carolinian forest bottomlands (moist
> understory). Think oak - hickory - hackberries - tulip trees. You
> can find this forest type in southern Michigan and even SW Ontario.
>
> Where the dominant broadleaf forest is beech - maple, no paw paws.
>
> >My book and the web article seems to have some contradictions. Give us
> >an update on how it turns out. I might give it try in Michigan.
>
> If you've got the right site, you could do it. I know I don't ( too high
> and dry).
> >
> >Also the book states that "unripe fruit can cause stomach upsets". One
> >reason for not growing commercially? Lawsuits? Shipping time/ripeness
> >too long?
>
> They grow and ship persimmons. Have you ever tried an unripe
> persimmon? Nasty!
>
> Not conducive to orcharding, I should think, based on its preferred
> growing conditions, and the fact that it is not bee pollinated (so
> often suffers poor pollination when grown in cultivation).
>
> The fruits are also enormously popular among the wildlife set (foxes,
> racoons, oppossums and squirrels). They are also fragile with a
> short shelf life and filled with large seeds (so, not ideal for selling
> as fresh fruit).
>
> I know there are probably some paw paw trees growing near me
> (probably down along the Rouge River) as I have seen the occassional
> Zebra swallowtail butterfly in my yard.
>
> http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawpaw
Well then, I learned something new today! I may try growing pawpaws
someday and also I just learned I may have a new junky book!
I may check out Dodge Park, its about 40 miles south west of me. I drive
by the park (today actually) once in a while and never stopped by.
Thinking it was just another stupid public park. I will have to look up
where Pawpaw Michigan is.
I went to a lecture six months ago in Port Huron about the Carolinian
Forest. The lecture was very interesting. The lecture may have mentioned
the paw paws in which at the time did not stuck in my brain. Showed
photos of the native trees and plants in the area. Sad that most of the
forest is gone.
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Enjoy Life... Dan
Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.
> <http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pawpaw.html>