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Posted by 0tterbot on January 10, 2008, 8:00 pm
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because i generally 1: can't be bothered 2: am both ill-informed and
disorganised, i don't companion-plant (also, wouldn't it mess with rotation
systems? that might be a different issue though) it's not something i
pursue. however, for 3 years i have put basil (Ocimum L.) (Ocimum L.) with the tomatoes in good
faith because EVERYONE says this is a good thing.
however, over the 3 years i've noticed that the basil (Ocimum L.) (Ocimum L.) doesn't come on if
it's with the tomatoes - the plants are always small (although the tomatoes
are happy). last year i thought the basils (Ocimum L.) (Ocimum L.) were probably too shaded, so i
gave more space this year, but the basils (Ocimum L.) (Ocimum L.) are still small & flowering early.
my other (seperate) basils are as big as i would expect, though (so it's not
dud seed or anything like that).
while i don't normally have any tomato diseases (so far - i am quite a
newbie gardener though) i can't be sure if this is because of the basil, or
if they'd have been healthy anyway (as, after all, tomatoes really aren't
that difficult, are they?)
so in a nutshell, i'm going to give up on this particular arrangement.
i have one tomato plant, though, that was planted quite close to spring
onions, & it's a tiny plant. i'm taking out the spring onions as we need
them, & the plant's finally getting a bit bigger now. i wonder if the onions
are bothering the tomato plant. the other, self-sown toms which are various
places are just dandy, despite considerable neglect AND no basil nearby (and
no staking, and little watering, etc).
does anyone have any comments about good or bad companions? have any of you
investigated this seriously? is it even worth pursuing? if anyone's found
any really excellent companions, i'd be quite interested, because i'm
starting to think it's just one of those things people say because everyone
else does, but has rarely been investigated thoroughly & scientifically.
thanks!!
kylie
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Posted by Terryc on January 11, 2008, 1:38 am
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> is anyone up for some information exchange about companion planting?
Yes. Generally there is very little useful information. The few books we
have tend to not mention many of the veges we grow,
We are currently trying the corn, beans and squash trilogy. Well, we
will if I can get the beans to actually come up.
It started with the corn. I ended up putting in about four lots of
planting before half the 12x12 block took and grew.
I've tried planting beans, but only 5 out of 60 shot and black birds ate
3 of them.
Meanwhile, the whole patch is being invaded by a self sown pumpkin(jap?)
from another patch. sigh. I woundn't feel so bad, but the only flowers
are male, Unless they are different to zucchini, which has been a total
waste of space so far as it all need hand pollination.
Ok well, hope the water tank is full as everything is going to need
watering this evening afterthe scorcher that today has been.
In summary, we just tend to try everything with everything and see what
happens. In reality swmbo always produces too many seedlings that get
shoe horned in everywhere.
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Posted by SG1 on January 11, 2008, 4:14 pm
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> 0tterbot wrote:
>> is anyone up for some information exchange about companion planting?
>
> Yes. Generally there is very little useful information. The few books we
> have tend to not mention many of the veges we grow,
>
> We are currently trying the corn, beans and squash trilogy. Well, we will
> if I can get the beans to actually come up.
>
> It started with the corn. I ended up putting in about four lots of
> planting before half the 12x12 block took and grew.
>
> I've tried planting beans, but only 5 out of 60 shot and black birds ate 3
> of them.
>
> Meanwhile, the whole patch is being invaded by a self sown pumpkin(jap?)
> from another patch. sigh. I woundn't feel so bad, but the only flowers are
> male, Unless they are different to zucchini, which has been a total waste
> of space so far as it all need hand pollination.
>
> Ok well, hope the water tank is full as everything is going to need
> watering this evening afterthe scorcher that today has been.
>
> In summary, we just tend to try everything with everything and see what
> happens. In reality swmbo always produces too many seedlings that get shoe
> horned in everywhere.
Don't complain my SWMBO does the digging and weeding in MY plot. Agh the
joys of a heart condition. The weeding is under supervision as all look like
weeds to younger eyes. But I get the credit for success & failure alike.
We have had a wet & cool summer so far, how I love a positive SOI.
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Posted by Terryc on January 11, 2008, 6:43 pm
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> Don't complain my SWMBO does the digging and weeding in MY plot.
Hey, you're talking to the garden labourer here. I was lucky to get the
corn plot.
> Agh the joys of a heart condition.
Oh, I've got one of those, but not so bad that I can not enjoy the
gardening.
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Posted by 0tterbot on January 13, 2008, 4:22 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > 0tterbot wrote:
>> is anyone up for some information exchange about companion planting?
>
> Yes. Generally there is very little useful information. The few books we
> have tend to not mention many of the veges we grow,
>
> We are currently trying the corn, beans and squash trilogy.
you can also do corn, squash and baby chickens!! (the idea being that when
the chicks are tall enough to pop out from the leaves, they are too big to
tempt eagles. or something like that. but clearly you have your hands full
as it is.)
Well, we
> will if I can get the beans to actually come up.
>
> It started with the corn. I ended up putting in about four lots of
> planting before half the 12x12 block took and grew.
>
> I've tried planting beans, but only 5 out of 60 shot and black birds ate 3
> of them.
>
> Meanwhile, the whole patch is being invaded by a self sown pumpkin(jap?)
> from another patch. sigh. I woundn't feel so bad, but the only flowers are
> male, Unless they are different to zucchini, which has been a total waste
> of space so far as it all need hand pollination.
your zucchini aren't getting fertilised without you?! that IS odd.
apparently pumpkin will produce more female flowers if you nip the tips off
& force it to make a decision. males always come first & you should get
females by tipping it.
> Ok well, hope the water tank is full as everything is going to need
> watering this evening afterthe scorcher that today has been.
>
> In summary, we just tend to try everything with everything and see what
> happens. In reality swmbo always produces too many seedlings that get shoe
> horned in everywhere.
that is a problem of mine although i'm much better now at ditching the
strugglers (hence less problem).
getting back to my question - have you made any concrete discoveries yet?
:-)
kylie
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