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---> Re: water tank rebates hairyarms@aussi...07-10-2007
Posted by George W. Frost on July 9, 2007, 12:25 am
 
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Nice to see the councils giving a rebate if you install rainwater tanks to
connect to the toilet etc, but you wait and see what the councils have
planned for the future.
They will legislate and announce a    "Bulk Water Storage Tank Fee"

It is really odd that Connex get fined thousands of dollars  for not
supplying trains to schedule and missed trains etc.
Yet, all the water Boards seem to be exempt from any fees for not supplying
water as needed.
We are almost on level 4 restrictions all across the state, which means you
cant use water as you like, yet we still have to pay top price for the
supply of goods which we  are not allowed to have.
Something doesn't sound quite right, it doesn't balance.

You cannot blame "climate change"

this is a made up phrase to suit the purpose of greenies and politicians
No such thing as "climate change" it has been going on for thousands of
years

Was mankind to blame for the Ice Age"
Was mankind to blame for the thawing of the Ice Age?
Was mankind to blame for the eventual drying up of the inland lakes and seas
leaving deserts?

No way, because man wasn't invented then

It is the same in these years now, mankind cannot be held to blame.

Any change in the climate is due to the atomic reaction of the earth and its
environs

We cannot control the earth's interiors, lava flows, winds, earthquakes,
tides, seasons  etc
so you are not going to be able to control any type of climate change that
may or may not come along


frosty




Posted by len garden on July 9, 2007, 2:44 pm
 On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:25:23 GMT, "George W. Frost"


that's what it is all about, it's about selling control of water to
privateers so they can make profits, and the rebates aren't to
encourage people to save water as they don't encourage people to put
in tanks of sufficient size to do that in any way, fi they did want to
encourage conservation of water then they would not offer rebates on
tanks sizes under 15k litres, as anything under that size does little.

the main thrust of the rebate which catches the greedy is so they have
an inventory of tank owners under contract so when the time comes as
you say they will bill you for owning a tank and most likely for ease
of administration it will be a flat rate no matter how tiny the tank
is.


yes as the yuppie set work under the premise that you can drink and
eat your money they will supply water but only if you can afford to
buy it, just like power so we have interesting to say the least times
ahead as major sections of our communities go without the basics of
like that is somewhere to live, water and power.


we are already on level 5 heading for level 6 in september


we can point the finger at land developers and factory mega farms for
descimating our bio-diversity all in the nterest of profits and this
loss of bio-diversity has at the very least reduced our opportunities
for rain.

but no these climatic fluctuations are part of the planets structure,
as they keep showing on free to air news programs (who watches free to
air anymore let alone news/current affairs programs, they ca afford to
be honest now as their is almost nill audience), all these extreme
events have happened before and some even worse than now.


gotta love them greenies hey well any pollie for that matter, they get
into power and all they all do is line their pockets with red, and
bleat about what they are doing for the environment, classic example
tassie.



With peace and brightest of blessings,

len & bev

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

Posted by Troppo on July 9, 2007, 4:56 pm
 

Still doing it tough down south ?

My Council in NQ (along with several others) has a 3 year exemption on
installing tanks for new houses. The reason: it's a huge waste of
resources with little return. $5,000+ for the installation (under QDC
25), value of water recovered $50 p.a. at the current penalty rate per
kL.
The containments are still full and the mighty Burdekin River flows on.
Better to spend the rebate and tank money on something that actually
makes a difference !!



I doubt this. Most Councils haven't enough plumbers to carry out their
own essential work properly. It is probably unlawful to charge a fee for
a service that isn't done.

AFAIK no Council in NQ offers tank rebates. People who install a tank can
get one from the State.
 

True. The cause is massive failure to predict and plan, vast amounts of
water wasted on unsustainable crops like cotton, etc. etc.
At the end of the day, its the large scale systems of collection and
containment that will produce results, not fiddling at the micro level.



Posted by John Savage on July 13, 2007, 10:35 am
 
Like higher stumps and sturdier levee banks??  :-))
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Posted by Troppo on July 13, 2007, 6:12 pm
 

Why not? No way I'd build on the ground round here :-) As it happens,
stumps aren't common any more for new houses. Minimum floor level is
450mm over 50 year floodline. So if there is a 200 year rainstorm (as in
1998 & 2000) you might get wet. Levee banks in some places but the common
alternative on flood-prone acreage is now a house pad. You might be stuck
on an island for a bit, surrounded by afflux.
I was thinking of measures like:
Compulsory fitting of AAA shower heads, dual flush toilets in houses
offered for sale (rather than just new ones).
Pressure limiting valves.
Water-efficient landscaping.
Front-loader washing machines.
And the rebates should be paid to the agencies responsible for the
reticulated system, eg for investment in containments, upgrading to
prevent losses from mains failures and leakage etc.