Posted by 0tterbot on July 31, 2006, 3:46 am
bonjour,
at our new property we'll be moving to soonish, there are a number of plants
that i don't know, & don't know how to find out what they are either! i've
looked at various online resources, but they tend to be either geographic,
OR, based around plant family, or based around recommendations for "plants
for a boggy spot", "plants for a dry, windswept area", you know, that sort
of thing. the books i have are similar & haven't been any help with the
(literally) couple of things i want to identify.
assuming one hasn't the first idea of plant family, native or exotic, or any
of the usual distinctions, how does one go about finding out what soemthing
is, when you know _nothing_ except what it looks like? does anyone know of
any good online photographic resources (say, helpfully divided into
categories like "tree", "shrub" etc? <g>
or, is my best bet going to be investing in copies of "what tree is that?" &
all of those?
i'm a bit despondent because i suspect that what i need just doesn't exist
:-)
tia for any help.
kylie
Posted by loosecanon on July 31, 2006, 10:32 am
Sawasdee krab Kylie,
My usual thought is to either upload a picture onto a website and then ask
people here to identify them by giving the link.
Another alternative is to take a piece of the plant to your local nursery
and seek the horticulturist (hence not the 16 y/o on the till). Your state's
department of agriculture might have someone who can help also.
Locals may be able to help even if it is just a common name.
Oh and lastly IDing plants is easier if they are in flower as well.
Cheers
Richard
> bonjour,
> at our new property we'll be moving to soonish, there are a number of
plants
> that i don't know, & don't know how to find out what they are either! i've
> looked at various online resources, but they tend to be either geographic,
> OR, based around plant family, or based around recommendations for "plants
> for a boggy spot", "plants for a dry, windswept area", you know, that sort
> of thing. the books i have are similar & haven't been any help with the
> (literally) couple of things i want to identify.
> assuming one hasn't the first idea of plant family, native or exotic, or
any
> of the usual distinctions, how does one go about finding out what
soemthing
> is, when you know _nothing_ except what it looks like? does anyone know of
> any good online photographic resources (say, helpfully divided into
> categories like "tree", "shrub" etc? <g>
> or, is my best bet going to be investing in copies of "what tree is that?"
&
> all of those?
> i'm a bit despondent because i suspect that what i need just doesn't exist
> :-)
> tia for any help.
> kylie
Posted by gardenlen on July 31, 2006, 4:17 pm
g'day kylie,
yes as loosecannon has said upload some pics online ie.,. photobucket
maybe there are others i have no preference as i have my own web site
to use.
once you upload the pics then come back here and put a new post with
the page url in the post then there is a chance help will come your
way.
the plant world is designed for horticulturists so very hard for us
novices to know where to begin.
looking forward to your new post
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With peace and brightest of blessings,
len
--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."
http://www.gardenlen.com
Posted by FlowerGirl on July 31, 2006, 7:43 pm
> bonjour,
> at our new property we'll be moving to soonish, there are a number of
plants
> that i don't know, & don't know how to find out what they are either! i've
> looked at various online resources, but they tend to be either geographic,
> OR, based around plant family, or based around recommendations for "plants
> for a boggy spot", "plants for a dry, windswept area", you know, that sort
> of thing. the books i have are similar & haven't been any help with the
> (literally) couple of things i want to identify.
> assuming one hasn't the first idea of plant family, native or exotic, or
any
> of the usual distinctions, how does one go about finding out what
soemthing
> is, when you know _nothing_ except what it looks like? does anyone know of
> any good online photographic resources (say, helpfully divided into
> categories like "tree", "shrub" etc? <g>
> or, is my best bet going to be investing in copies of "what tree is that?"
&
> all of those?
> i'm a bit despondent because i suspect that what i need just doesn't exist
> :-)
> tia for any help.
> kylie
Post pics as others have said .... and also note a few things if they are
not clear in the pics
.... are the leaves alternately or oppositely placed along the stem?.
Are the leaves single leaves or pinnate (disected leaves) - you can check by
tking note if there is a leaf bud above the attachment to the stem.
Note the overall leaf shape.
Note the bark type .
Note the form (tree, shrub etc).
and the real thing will be the flowers ... note how many sepals, petals and
their attachment above or below the ovary (fruit).
Note if they are in clusters, single, amd whether they are at the ends of
the branches or not.
Number of stamens (pollen carrying bits).
If the stigma (girly bit - not carrying pollen) is disected.
if there is fruit, slice horizontally and count the number of chambers.
This info should help anyone with an appropriate key to find out for you.
...
I've got a good rainforest sp key which I've used for years, and *may* be
able to help even if its not an Aust native (given that I'm a botanist who's
taught taxonomy at uni ... going back a few years though so I'm very rusty).
Failing all this, you could try taking a shoot (with flowers if possible) to
the local Landcare gp, Greening Australia gp, garden club, garden centre,
DPI service etc.
Amanda
Posted by FlowerGirl on August 1, 2006, 1:02 am
> > bonjour,
> >
> > at our new property we'll be moving to soonish, there are a number of
> plants
> > that i don't know, & don't know how to find out what they are either!
i've
> > looked at various online resources, but they tend to be either
geographic,
> > OR, based around plant family, or based around recommendations for
"plants
> > for a boggy spot", "plants for a dry, windswept area", you know, that
sort
> > of thing. the books i have are similar & haven't been any help with the
> > (literally) couple of things i want to identify.
> >
> > assuming one hasn't the first idea of plant family, native or exotic, or
> any
> > of the usual distinctions, how does one go about finding out what
> soemthing
> > is, when you know _nothing_ except what it looks like? does anyone know
of
> > any good online photographic resources (say, helpfully divided into
> > categories like "tree", "shrub" etc? <g>
> >
> > or, is my best bet going to be investing in copies of "what tree is
that?"
> &
> > all of those?
> >
> > i'm a bit despondent because i suspect that what i need just doesn't
exist
> > :-)
> >
> > tia for any help.
> > kylie
> >
> Post pics as others have said .... and also note a few things if they are
> not clear in the pics
> .... are the leaves alternately or oppositely placed along the stem?.
> Are the leaves single leaves or pinnate (disected leaves) - you can check
by
> tking note if there is a leaf bud above the attachment to the stem.
> Note the overall leaf shape.
> Note the bark type .
> Note the form (tree, shrub etc).
> and the real thing will be the flowers ... note how many sepals, petals
and
> their attachment above or below the ovary (fruit).
> Note if they are in clusters, single, amd whether they are at the ends of
> the branches or not.
> Number of stamens (pollen carrying bits).
> If the stigma (girly bit - not carrying pollen) is disected.
> if there is fruit, slice horizontally and count the number of chambers.
> This info should help anyone with an appropriate key to find out for you.
> ...
> I've got a good rainforest sp key which I've used for years, and *may* be
> able to help even if its not an Aust native (given that I'm a botanist
who's
> taught taxonomy at uni ... going back a few years though so I'm very
rusty).
> Failing all this, you could try taking a shoot (with flowers if possible)
to
> the local Landcare gp, Greening Australia gp, garden club, garden centre,
> DPI service etc.
> Amanda
I also imagine you've looked at the ASGAP website ....
http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/index.html
and lots of pics of native plants with descriptions:
http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/gallery.html
> at our new property we'll be moving to soonish, there are a number of
plants
> that i don't know, & don't know how to find out what they are either! i've
> looked at various online resources, but they tend to be either geographic,
> OR, based around plant family, or based around recommendations for "plants
> for a boggy spot", "plants for a dry, windswept area", you know, that sort
> of thing. the books i have are similar & haven't been any help with the
> (literally) couple of things i want to identify.
> assuming one hasn't the first idea of plant family, native or exotic, or
any
> of the usual distinctions, how does one go about finding out what