do rats piggy-back their young?

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Posted by John Savage on March 29, 2005, 6:19 pm
 
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Around midday as I opened the back door a rat that was on the steps
jumped off into a patch of mondo grass and froze there for a minute.
I could see a baby rat clutching onto the adult's back up near the neck.

Now, I've never heard of a rat carrying its young like that, though I
have seen native mammals doing it in documentaries. So, before I set out
some rat bait I'd like to confirm this is almost certainly a rat. I'd
hate to wipe out a colony of native mammals living in suburbia through
mistaken identity.

From the brief glimpse I got, I'd say if anything the rat was blunter
than the usual town rat. I'm blaming this rat for having scratched in
a pot of potting mix where I've got some seeds sprouting (see other
thread on the 'tuba' climber), and that seems unusual for rattus rattus,
too.

Can anyone assure me that rats do transport their young on their back?

(I know that piggy-back is not the right spelling, but that's how most
people say it.)
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John Savage                   (my news address is not valid for email)
 


Posted by Trish Brown on March 29, 2005, 6:43 pm
 

John Savage wrote:


No, they don't! Rats keep their babies in a nest and when the kittens
are ready to go a-foraging, they go independently of Mum.

What you saw might have been a marsupial something-or-other? Small
Ring-Tail Possum? Bandicoot? Marsupial Rat? Antechinus or Dunnart or one
of those little fellows? How exciting! *Do* try and get another look
(and a pic, if you can)!

--
Trish
Newcastle, Australia

Posted by John Savage on April 1, 2005, 2:50 pm
 


Thanks for the reply, Trish.

This was not a ring tail nor a native water rat, as both of those have
a white tip to their tail, and this one did not.
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Posted by len gardener on March 29, 2005, 7:13 pm
 

g'day john,

usually the rodents develop burrows for their nests and that is where
the young stay until they can follow around or fend for themselves.
the action you described sounds more like a native type animal.

maybe phone your local evnvironment office or museum.

let us know the results.

len

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Posted by HC on March 30, 2005, 1:14 am
 

G'day John

I have to agree with Trish and Len about Rattus Rattus, they do make a
nest for their babies and suspect your might have a native.

How about setting a trap that will catch them live, without injury.
This way you could examine and identify them at close range.

I'm not sure what is available on the market but some years ago I used
to have a 'possum' trap, that would catch the live possum by placing an
apple (or other fruit) on a hook attached to a door closing mechanism.
When the possum entered the cage to eat the apple the slightest movement
of the apple would in turn move the hook, which then released the door
from it's open position, thus preventing the animal from escaping.  The
possum could then be relocated.  Something along those lines would allow
you to observe the animal without any injury.

Would WIRES or NPWS have traps for loan or hire?  Be interesting to find
what you have?

Bronwyn ;-)




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