Posted by David Hare-Scott on November 25, 2009, 4:45 pm
Jonno wrote:
> The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
> National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
> consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
> campaigns regarding environmental matters.
> http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm
> This site is only for those who care about truth.
I wonder if that is true. They start out with a reference to the
mythological and mystical doom that awaits us in 2012. This gets people
thinking about myths and media driven rubbish. This has nothing to do with
climate change but it is a good debating trick. The trick is called guilt
by association. It goes: A is rubbish, assume B is like A, therefore B is
rubbish.
They then go on to bring out the old climate change is caused by the sun
canard. Specifically in this case it is the sunspot cycle. While it is
thought that solar forcing is a component of climate change it is not the
only factor. Something has caused a cycle of ice ages and warmer periods
over millions of years - the sun. However the claim that the current cycle
of warming is entirely due to the sun has been roundly debunked. The fact
that they quote this Marusek as gospel and fail to even mention there is a
good case against him, much less explain the case against his view, tells me
that the author is not even handed and looking for truth but pushing an
agenda.
> If it is or not, I dont know eather, but keep searching. This is my
> input.
Well I suggest that you keep looking. So far all you are finding are sites
(such as the above and junkscience.com) run by contrarians and lobbyists.
Why won't you read anything by actual climate scientists?
David
Posted by SG1 on November 25, 2009, 5:26 pm
> Jonno wrote:
>> The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
>> National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
>> consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
>> campaigns regarding environmental matters.
>>
>> http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm
>>
>> This site is only for those who care about truth.
> I wonder if that is true. They start out with a reference to the
> mythological and mystical doom that awaits us in 2012. This gets people
> thinking about myths and media driven rubbish. This has nothing to do
> with climate change but it is a good debating trick. The trick is called
> guilt by association. It goes: A is rubbish, assume B is like A,
> therefore B is rubbish.
> They then go on to bring out the old climate change is caused by the sun
> canard. Specifically in this case it is the sunspot cycle. While it is
> thought that solar forcing is a component of climate change it is not the
> only factor. Something has caused a cycle of ice ages and warmer periods
> over millions of years - the sun. However the claim that the current
> cycle of warming is entirely due to the sun has been roundly debunked.
> The fact that they quote this Marusek as gospel and fail to even mention
> there is a good case against him, much less explain the case against his
> view, tells me that the author is not even handed and looking for truth
> but pushing an agenda.
>> If it is or not, I dont know eather, but keep searching. This is my
>> input.
> Well I suggest that you keep looking. So far all you are finding are
> sites (such as the above and junkscience.com) run by contrarians and
> lobbyists. Why won't you read anything by actual climate scientists?
> David
Read the emails hitting the news.
>
Posted by David Hare-Scott on November 25, 2009, 11:53 pm
SG1 wrote:
>> Jonno wrote:
>>> The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
>>> National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
>>> consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
>>> campaigns regarding environmental matters.
>>>
>>> http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm
>>>
>>> This site is only for those who care about truth.
>>
>> I wonder if that is true. They start out with a reference to the
>> mythological and mystical doom that awaits us in 2012. This gets
>> people thinking about myths and media driven rubbish. This has
>> nothing to do with climate change but it is a good debating trick. The
>> trick is called guilt by association. It goes: A is rubbish,
>> assume B is like A, therefore B is rubbish.
>>
>> They then go on to bring out the old climate change is caused by the
>> sun canard. Specifically in this case it is the sunspot cycle. While it
>> is thought that solar forcing is a component of climate
>> change it is not the only factor. Something has caused a cycle of
>> ice ages and warmer periods over millions of years - the sun. However the
>> claim that the current cycle of warming is entirely due
>> to the sun has been roundly debunked. The fact that they quote this
>> Marusek as gospel and fail to even mention there is a good case
>> against him, much less explain the case against his view, tells me
>> that the author is not even handed and looking for truth but pushing
>> an agenda.
>>> If it is or not, I dont know eather, but keep searching. This is my
>>> input.
>>
>> Well I suggest that you keep looking. So far all you are finding are
>> sites (such as the above and junkscience.com) run by contrarians and
>> lobbyists. Why won't you read anything by actual climate scientists?
>>
>> David
> Read the emails hitting the news.
This is really vague. If you have some evidence then point it out, as it is
I have no idea what you mean.
David
Posted by Jonno on November 26, 2009, 6:27 am
>> Jonno wrote:
>>> The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
>>> National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
>>> consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
>>> campaigns regarding environmental matters.
>>>
>>> http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm
>>>
>>> This site is only for those who care about truth.
>>
>> I wonder if that is true. They start out with a reference to the
>> mythological and mystical doom that awaits us in 2012. This gets people
>> thinking about myths and media driven rubbish. This has nothing to do
>> with climate change but it is a good debating trick. The trick is called
>> guilt by association. It goes: A is rubbish, assume B is like A,
>> therefore B is rubbish.
>>
>> They then go on to bring out the old climate change is caused by the sun
>> canard. Specifically in this case it is the sunspot cycle. While it is
>> thought that solar forcing is a component of climate change it is not the
>> only factor. Something has caused a cycle of ice ages and warmer periods
>> over millions of years - the sun. However the claim that the current
>> cycle of warming is entirely due to the sun has been roundly debunked.
>> The fact that they quote this Marusek as gospel and fail to even mention
>> there is a good case against him, much less explain the case against his
>> view, tells me that the author is not even handed and looking for truth
>> but pushing an agenda.
>>
>>
>>> If it is or not, I dont know eather, but keep searching. This is my
>>> input.
>>
>> Well I suggest that you keep looking. So far all you are finding are
>> sites (such as the above and junkscience.com) run by contrarians and
>> lobbyists. Why won't you read anything by actual climate scientists?
>>
>> David
> Read the emails hitting the news.
Youre not up to date re these emails David?
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/Then
how about this.Inhofe Comments on Obama Copenhagen AnnouncementWashington,
D.C.-Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of theSenate Committee on
Environment and Public Works, today commented on thenews that President Obama
will travel to Copenhagen, Denmark for the UnitedNations Climate Conference."I
suspect President Obama is making the trip to Copenhagen in order to'save' the
climate conference," Sen. Inhofe said. "Yet no amount of loftyrhetoric or
promises of future commitments can save it. This is due in largepart to the fact
cap-and-trade legislation in the Senate is dying on thevine, and, as important,
recent revelations of leading climate scientistswho appear to have manufactured
the climate 'consensus'-revelations thatcast doubt over the entire global
warming enterprise."Moreover, it's clear that China, India, and the developing
world, whichwill soon be responsible for the vast bulk of greenhouse gas
emissions, willnot accept mandatory cuts in emissions-despite entreaties from
PresidentObama. The U.S. Senate has made clear on numerous occasions that
unilateralaction by the United States is unacceptable, because it will harm
oureconomy and have virtually no effect on climate change."
Posted by Jonno on November 26, 2009, 6:32 am
Im gonna stop posting now
I think we have said enough.
Those that know seem to have won out.
Im not a skeptic.
Im a realist. Show me the proof.
Weve seem proof of lies, found out by honest men.
Youre all alowed to be fooled once,b ut twice is cutting it for me....
>>
>>> Jonno wrote:
>>>> The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
>>>> National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
>>>> consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
>>>> campaigns regarding environmental matters.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm
>>>>
>>>> This site is only for those who care about truth.
>>>
>>> I wonder if that is true. They start out with a reference to the
>>> mythological and mystical doom that awaits us in 2012. This gets people
>>> thinking about myths and media driven rubbish. This has nothing to do
>>> with climate change but it is a good debating trick. The trick is
>>> called guilt by association. It goes: A is rubbish, assume B is like A,
>>> therefore B is rubbish.
>>>
>>> They then go on to bring out the old climate change is caused by the sun
>>> canard. Specifically in this case it is the sunspot cycle. While it is
>>> thought that solar forcing is a component of climate change it is not
>>> the only factor. Something has caused a cycle of ice ages and warmer
>>> periods over millions of years - the sun. However the claim that the
>>> current cycle of warming is entirely due to the sun has been roundly
>>> debunked. The fact that they quote this Marusek as gospel and fail to
>>> even mention there is a good case against him, much less explain the
>>> case against his view, tells me that the author is not even handed and
>>> looking for truth but pushing an agenda.
>>>
>>>
>>>> If it is or not, I dont know eather, but keep searching. This is my
>>>> input.
>>>
>>> Well I suggest that you keep looking. So far all you are finding are
>>> sites (such as the above and junkscience.com) run by contrarians and
>>> lobbyists. Why won't you read anything by actual climate scientists?
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> Read the emails hitting the news.
> Youre not up to date re these emails David?
>
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/Then
> how about this.Inhofe Comments on Obama Copenhagen AnnouncementWashington,
> D.C.-Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of theSenate Committee
> on Environment and Public Works, today commented on thenews that President
> Obama will travel to Copenhagen, Denmark for the UnitedNations Climate
> Conference."I suspect President Obama is making the trip to Copenhagen in
> order to'save' the climate conference," Sen. Inhofe said. "Yet no amount
> of loftyrhetoric or promises of future commitments can save it. This is
> due in largepart to the fact cap-and-trade legislation in the Senate is
> dying on thevine, and, as important, recent revelations of leading climate
> scientistswho appear to have manufactured the climate
> 'consensus'-revelations thatcast doubt over the entire global warming
> enterprise."Moreover, it's clear that China, India, and the developing
> world, whichwill soon be responsible for the vast bulk of greenhouse gas
> emissions, willnot accept mandatory cuts in emissions-despite entreaties
> from PresidentObama. The U.S. Senate has made clear on numerous occasions
> that unilateralaction by the United States is unacceptable, because it
> will harm oureconomy and have virtually no effect on climate change."
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> National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
> consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
> campaigns regarding environmental matters.
> http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm
> This site is only for those who care about truth.