Re: Mulching with hay bales...

Posted by PC on February 8, 2010, 6:57 pm

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Extract form Sun Herald Australia

We may now have to put some hay bales around Holland...

"Funny how every mistake now coming to light is of the kind that tended
to make global warming scarier. You know, that the Himalayan glaciers
would melt by 2035, the Amazonian rain forests were extremely
vulnerable, the Antarctica would become too fragile even for dirty
shoes. And funny, too, how the IPCC boss cadged so many grants,
directorships and business deals as his IPCC hyped the dangers. (Just
read a fuller list of IPCC controversies here.)

Nor is that the only sceptical news from the Netherlands:

Dutch researchers reporting to Minister Cramer on Wednesday said
that global warming appears to be slower than had been assumed.

Dutch Environment Minister Jacqueline Cramer says she will no
longer tolerate errors by climate researchers. She expressed her anger
to Dutch researchers who presented their annual report on the state of
the climate on Wednesday.

Here’s Tony Abbott’s way out of the pinch of claiming to still believe
in dangerous man-made warming, yet blocking Rudd’s emissions trading
scheme. Surely there’s now so many scandals engulging the IPCC and its
science, that it’s mad for us to spend a single dollar more until an
inquiry - with sceptical scientists on board too - reviews all the
science we were once falsely told was “settled”.

Demand an inquiry now.

UPDATE

India goes even further:

India has threatened to pull out of the United Nations’
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and set up its on climate
change body because it “cannot rely” on the group headed by its own
Nobel Prize-winning scientist Dr R K Pachauri…

In India the (IPCC’s) false claims (on the Himalayas) have
heightened tensions between Dr Pachauri and the government… In Autumn,
its environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, said that while glacial melting
in the Himalayas was a real concern, there was evidence that some were
actually advancing despite global warming…

(L)ast night Mr Ramesh effectively marginalised the IPC chairman
even further. He announced that the Indian government will establish a
separate National Institute of Himalayan Glaciology to monitor the
effects of climate change on the world’s “third ice cap”, and an “Indian
IPCC” to use “climate science” to assess the impact of global warming
throughout the country.

“There is a fine line between climate science and climate
evangelism. I am for climate science. ...” he said."

Arent we all for science, but accurate non political science, not the
one that encourages scientists to sell their soul for what appears to be
seasoned with deliberate support for something which can makes billions
of dollars for crooked organisations. Follow the money trail.......
Speed cameras? Scientists for sale stuff as well....Making billions all
over the world and doing quite nicely......

Posted by David Hare-Scott on February 8, 2010, 8:07 pm

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Filling up this NG with propaganda and using your waffling style where it
takes you 4 tries to say something is bad enough. Don't you think hijacking
on topic threads is taking it a bit too far? Are you that desperate for
attention? If you really want to go 10 rounds over climate change how about
posting to a NG where it is on topic. Try alt.global-warming.

David

Posted by PC on February 8, 2010, 8:19 pm

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Re: Give over on the hijacking

Youre right of course.
But do me a favour >> What about minding the facts....
Seems like youre always here, denying and failing to see on purpose.
Hay is important. We may need some soon.
I can be as annoying as you....
Lucerne is best...
I have to say things four or five times.
Its hard to explain it to you....
Letsvote on it
all those who want me to drop the subject say AYE
All those who wish me to keep you informed here say NAYE.
Thats democratic.

On 9/02/2010 12:07 PM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
> Filling up this NG with propaganda and using your waffling style where
> it takes you 4 tries to say something is bad enough. Don't you think
> hijacking on topic threads is taking it a bit too far? Are you that
> desperate for attention? If you really want to go 10 rounds over climate
> change how about posting to a NG where it is on topic. Try
> alt.global-warming.
> > David

Posted by FarmI on February 8, 2010, 9:08 pm

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> Re: Give over on the hijacking

> Youre right of course.

> But do me a favour >> What about minding the facts....

> Seems like youre always here, denying and failing to see on purpose.

> Hay is important. We may need some soon.

> I can be as annoying as you....

> Lucerne is best...

> I have to say things four or five times.

> Its hard to explain it to you....

> Letsvote on it

> all those who want me to drop the subject say AYE

AYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's long overdue for you to STFU with your off topic
postings in this forum.

When it comes to climate change, you're a total bore but worse than that
you're a pea brained moron. You can be given cites time and time again that
should make you think about the issues involved but even if you do bother to
read them, the information and facts doesn't seem to penetrate your thick
skull because you have no capacity for critical thinking. You just ignore
anything that don't fit your agenda and will twist and turn anything so that
it does suit your agenda. You come back repeatedly with crap from websites
that can be discredited by anyone with even half a brain and able to use
google with any degree of competence.

While (most) of the rest of us are trying to make some sense of climate
change and how it may impact on us and on our families and on our gardens
and our lifestyles you are into full-on denial.

I don't care if you choose to be a denier but do it somewhere else. You've
become a total bore and you don't even have the decency to avoid the use of
sock puppets.

Posted by PC on February 8, 2010, 9:21 pm

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On 9/02/2010 1:08 PM, FarmI wrote:

>> Re: Give over on the hijacking

>> Youre right of course.

>> But do me a favour>> What about minding the facts....

>> Seems like youre always here, denying and failing to see on purpose.

>> Hay is important. We may need some soon.

>> I can be as annoying as you....

>> Lucerne is best...

>> I have to say things four or five times.

>> Its hard to explain it to you....

>> Letsvote on it

>> all those who want me to drop the subject say AYE

> AYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's long overdue for you to STFU with your off topic

> postings in this forum.

> When it comes to climate change, you're a total bore but worse than that

> you're a pea brained moron. You can be given cites time and time again that

> should make you think about the issues involved but even if you do bother to

> read them, the information and facts doesn't seem to penetrate your thick

> skull because you have no capacity for critical thinking.

You mean sites of course.

You just ignore

> anything that don't fit your agenda and will twist and turn anything so that

> it does suit your agenda.

I have no agenda excpt the truth.

>You come back repeatedly with crap from websites

you show the sqame capacity..and are ill mannered at best.

> that can be discredited by anyone with even half a brain and able to use

> google with any degree of competence.

> While (most) of the rest of us are trying to make some sense of climate

> change and how it may impact on us and on our families and on our gardens

> and our lifestyles you are into full-on denial.

No that int right either. Im not going to call you a moron. I have more
respect for people than that.

> I don't care if you choose to be a denier but do it somewhere else. You've

> become a total bore and you don't even have the decency to avoid the use of

> sock puppets.

Denier? Heck no, I think the word is warming but some are pretending
they can do something about it. CO2 buildup wont change the temperature.
Its sad I have to explain once more> Putting in two or three windows in
a house wil insulate it, but after a certai namount it wont change its
heating retention. ITS STAYS TH SAME.
Convince me that I'm wrong with the right science and I will apologise
and bare my bum on Bourke street Melbourne....
Why are you so worried that I use three compters with different names? I
never denied this<

No I disagree, and havent resorted to name calling until some else did.
Your lack of research, shows clearly that youl'l believe what youre fed.

Ill put your vote as one.

David cannot vote.....

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