Posted by Rod Speed on January 18, 2010, 10:10 pm
I dont know that much about growing veg, first time this spring/summer.
The first couple of batches of lettuce did fine, First batch was mignonettes,
planted from seedlings from bunnings, transplanted early sep, took a bit of
time to start but then did fine. Second batch was cos, planted mid oct
from seedlings from bunnings again.
They both went to seed after a very hot spell in mid Nov, got quite a few leaves
to eat until then.
I've since planted some more icebers, 'salad mix', cos, and lollo rossa, mostly
from seedings from bunnings, but the salad mix from someone flogging them
at the sunday market.
None of them have done much except the icebergs.
They havent died, just havent done much growth wise.
The icebergs did grow noticeably, up to big bigger than a large grapefruit size,
but no hearts. Since the first two batches had gone to seed I did start using
leaves off the small icebergs. Now even the icebergs seen to have stopped.
We have had much hotter weather obviously, in fact a couple of patches
of a week or so over 40C, with some rather cooler times in between.
They get plenty of water, once a day from one of those
soaker hoses that sort of weep water rather than spray it.
Is it just that they dont like the very hot weather ?
The net seems to suggest that thats the problem.
Are there any varietys that do much better in the very hot weather ?
Posted by David Hare-Scott on January 18, 2010, 11:20 pm
Rod Speed wrote:
> I dont know that much about growing veg, first time this
> spring/summer.
> The first couple of batches of lettuce did fine, First batch was
> mignonettes, planted from seedlings from bunnings, transplanted early sep,
> took a
> bit of time to start but then did fine. Second batch was cos, planted mid
> oct
> from seedlings from bunnings again.
> They both went to seed after a very hot spell in mid Nov, got quite a
> few leaves to eat until then.
> I've since planted some more icebers, 'salad mix', cos, and lollo
> rossa, mostly from seedings from bunnings, but the salad mix from someone
> flogging
> them at the sunday market.
> None of them have done much except the icebergs.
> They havent died, just havent done much growth wise.
> The icebergs did grow noticeably, up to big bigger than a large
> grapefruit size, but no hearts. Since the first two batches had gone to
> seed I did
> start using leaves off the small icebergs. Now even the icebergs seen to
> have
> stopped.
> We have had much hotter weather obviously, in fact a couple of patches
> of a week or so over 40C, with some rather cooler times in between.
> They get plenty of water, once a day from one of those
> soaker hoses that sort of weep water rather than spray it.
> Is it just that they dont like the very hot weather ?
Yes. I give up on lettuce in summer. Despite being seen as a summer salad
vege, in a hot climate they grow best in autumn and spring and will do OK in
winter, most will stand a light frost.
> The net seems to suggest that thats the problem.
> Are there any varietys that do much better in the very hot weather ?
If you find out let me know. I have tried some lablelled "slow bolting" but
they didn't seem any better.
David
Posted by Rod Speed on January 19, 2010, 12:03 am
David Hare-Scott wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> I dont know that much about growing veg, first time this spring/summer.
>> The first couple of batches of lettuce did fine, First batch was mignonettes,
planted from seedlings from bunnings,
>> transplanted early sep, took a bit of time to start but then did fine. Second
batch was cos, planted mid oct from
>> seedlings from bunnings again.
>> They both went to seed after a very hot spell in mid Nov, got quite a few
leaves to eat until then.
>> I've since planted some more icebers, 'salad mix', cos, and lollo rossa,
mostly from seedings from bunnings, but the
>> salad mix from someone flogging them at the sunday market.
>> None of them have done much except the icebergs.
>> They havent died, just havent done much growth wise.
>> The icebergs did grow noticeably, up to bit bigger than a large
>> grapefruit size, but no hearts. Since the first two batches had gone to seed
I did start using leaves off the small
>> icebergs. Now even the icebergs seen to have stopped.
>> We have had much hotter weather obviously, in fact a couple of patches of a
week or so over 40C, with some rather
>> cooler times in between.
>> They get plenty of water, once a day from one of those
>> soaker hoses that sort of weep water rather than spray it.
>> Is it just that they dont like the very hot weather ?
> Yes. I give up on lettuce in summer. Despite being seen as a summer salad
vege, in a hot climate they grow best in
> autumn and spring and will do OK in winter, most will stand a light frost.
>> The net seems to suggest that thats the problem.
>> Are there any varietys that do much better in the very hot weather ?
> If you find out let me know. I have tried some lablelled "slow bolting" but
they didn't seem any better.
Just been down the nursery, and the woman said that she just planted
a punnet of Vegie Patch's Lettuce Combo last week and was already
eating leaves off it this week. The label doesnt say exactly what the
variety is, part of the mix looks like a red leafed cos and the rest
has more wrinkly leaves and is light green. She did sort of imply
that it was only one of the varietys that was so spectacular, so
I will plant the punnet this evening and see how it goes.
Posted by Rod Speed on January 19, 2010, 4:18 am
Rod Speed wrote:
> I dont know that much about growing veg, first time this
> spring/summer.
> The first couple of batches of lettuce did fine, First batch was
> mignonettes, planted from seedlings from bunnings, transplanted early sep,
took a
> bit of time to start but then did fine. Second batch was cos, planted mid oct
> from seedlings from bunnings again.
> They both went to seed after a very hot spell in mid Nov, got quite a
> few leaves to eat until then.
> I've since planted some more icebers, 'salad mix', cos, and lollo
> rossa, mostly from seedings from bunnings, but the salad mix from someone
flogging
> them at the sunday market.
> None of them have done much except the icebergs.
> They havent died, just havent done much growth wise.
> The icebergs did grow noticeably, up to big bigger than a large
> grapefruit size, but no hearts. Since the first two batches had gone to seed I
did
> start using leaves off the small icebergs. Now even the icebergs seen to have
> stopped.
> We have had much hotter weather obviously, in fact a couple of patches
> of a week or so over 40C, with some rather cooler times in between.
> They get plenty of water, once a day from one of those
> soaker hoses that sort of weep water rather than spray it.
> Is it just that they dont like the very hot weather ?
> The net seems to suggest that thats the problem.
> Are there any varietys that do much better in the very hot weather ?
One obvious question that occurs is where is the
lettuce thats in the supermarkets coming from ?
Posted by Loosecanon on January 19, 2010, 4:52 am
>I dont know that much about growing veg, first time this spring/summer.
> The first couple of batches of lettuce did fine, First batch was
> mignonettes,
> planted from seedlings from bunnings, transplanted early sep, took a bit
> of
> time to start but then did fine. Second batch was cos, planted mid oct
> from seedlings from bunnings again.
> They both went to seed after a very hot spell in mid Nov, got quite a few
> leaves to eat until then.
> I've since planted some more icebers, 'salad mix', cos, and lollo rossa,
> mostly
> from seedings from bunnings, but the salad mix from someone flogging them
> at the sunday market.
> None of them have done much except the icebergs.
> They havent died, just havent done much growth wise.
> The icebergs did grow noticeably, up to big bigger than a large grapefruit
> size,
> but no hearts. Since the first two batches had gone to seed I did start
> using
> leaves off the small icebergs. Now even the icebergs seen to have stopped.
> We have had much hotter weather obviously, in fact a couple of patches
> of a week or so over 40C, with some rather cooler times in between.
> They get plenty of water, once a day from one of those
> soaker hoses that sort of weep water rather than spray it.
> Is it just that they dont like the very hot weather ?
> The net seems to suggest that thats the problem.
> Are there any varietys that do much better in the very hot weather ?
Lettuces were originally a winter crop. It was selection of plants that
could withstand hotter conditions in summer that sees us have them all year
round. I would guess that they are not good over 35C as most would have been
developed in the northern hemisphere. Lettuce prices in real hot weather go
through the roof so it would make sense. My uncle has success over summer in
a shadehouse so maybe the sunlight is to intense outdoors.
> spring/summer.
> The first couple of batches of lettuce did fine, First batch was
> mignonettes, planted from seedlings from bunnings, transplanted early sep,
> took a
> bit of time to start but then did fine. Second batch was cos, planted mid
> oct
> from seedlings from bunnings again.
> They both went to seed after a very hot spell in mid Nov, got quite a
> few leaves to eat until then.
> I've since planted some more icebers, 'salad mix', cos, and lollo
> rossa, mostly from seedings from bunnings, but the salad mix from someone
> flogging
> them at the sunday market.
> None of them have done much except the icebergs.
> They havent died, just havent done much growth wise.
> The icebergs did grow noticeably, up to big bigger than a large
> grapefruit size, but no hearts. Since the first two batches had gone to
> seed I did
> start using leaves off the small icebergs. Now even the icebergs seen to
> have
> stopped.
> We have had much hotter weather obviously, in fact a couple of patches
> of a week or so over 40C, with some rather cooler times in between.
> They get plenty of water, once a day from one of those
> soaker hoses that sort of weep water rather than spray it.
> Is it just that they dont like the very hot weather ?