Hey Farml, Rob, David and All.. - Page 7

 

i may be a whippersnapper, but until you old fogeys (i.e. baby-boomers) came
along, in the olden days i would have been considered middle-aged(!!!) so
there!!!!!!!!!
actually, in the real olden days i'd have been dead already, years ago.
there's a sobering thought.


i used to be demanding, selfish and unrepentant. AND i thought the world
owed me a living!!!!!!! (and for good measure, everything was all about me
and what i wanted). it's a bit embarrassing to think about now. naughty
young'uns of the present will repent in time, don't you worry ;-)

 2 examples - that idiot teenager in Melbourne

erm, it takes us a long time to actually figure out consequences, i think.
into young adulthood at the earliest, in most cases. some people really are
unusually mature, but i suspect that's, like i said, unusual.

your first example is actually a good one - that child was only
participating in a time-honoured tradition of the it's-all-about-me age
group (being selfish & irresponsible & creating havoc) - but he was aided by
new technology (technology invented by, run by, and mainly used by, adults).
then more adults calling themselves (somewhat disingenuously) "the media"
beat it up into a storm in a teacup. ffs, he is an unintelligent and boring
boy who will most likely be ashamed of himself within a few short years.
he's lost more than he could ever hope to gain - possibly he'll be paying
for it his whole life. but, that's life. :-) did you read the recent reports
about how teenage boys actually don't have normal brains? i mean, we all
know that instinctively, but it's actually true. most of them come out of it
no harm done, thankfully. i am horrified to think of a few incidents where i
did the MOST ridiculous, selfish, & potentially deadly things, due to lack
of thought, and i was a Good Kid, even!! and i do really mean just a handful
of incidents such as anyone would get up to, but still. i just was lucky
nothing really went wrong. this is common. probably more common though that
most kids don't really get up to anything much - mostly it's just colour &
movement & if anyone does suffer for it, it's only themselves; they learn,
they move on.

the second example i'm less sure about, and it's actually much more
disturbing (anyone who wants to see "what it's like on the inside (jail)"
deadset has a screw loose. that's not normal. (if he wants to know what it's
like inside, he should have watched the excellent american series "oz" on
sbs - that would turn ANYONE straight! :-) i would point out though that
kids who have genuine, large problems always have common threads involving
being let down by adults (whether their own family, or the community at
large perhaps in this case, seeing as how the kids are immigrants from an
oft-maligned ethnic group.) i would point out that almost every recent study
published re social cohesion & those types of problems almost always make
the remark that the last 10-12 years has been particularly disastrous (any
clue there, do you think??! ;-) social cohesion is just about the most
important thing. it just is. teenagers, amusingly, often think they are
important & in charge of things & that everything's all about them, but that
is absolutely wrong. by the time they realise adults are in charge, adults
run everything, & everything's all about adults, they are already adults
themselves (that's how they come to realise the truth.) as adults, we have a
massive obligation & sometimes we let other people down.

having said that, charlie would no doubt opine that an incident of 5 teens
going mental in a school with bats is nowhere near as bad as teens going
mental with guns in schools now averaging every 4 months and with deaths
involved, as is happening in the u.s., or nowhere near as bad as a majority
of children of a nation having been roped into a militia & killing
people/being kept as sex slaves/both, as has happened in a handful of
african countries of late (etc). it helps to keep our perspective, what. we
are extremely lucky in australia, although we work to make our own luck,
which helps.

 the peasants won't even rise up because the peasants are

well, magnificent is a very strong word, but take it where you get it :-D


ooh, your choice of what's for afternoon tea!
kylie

 


You've no idea, me dear.   Indeed, count yourselves as fortunate.

It's a world gone mad.  These are children to whom this is being done
and who are doing these things.

Check this out.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/040108/geo_263715960.shtml


Third-graders grilled on plot to kill teacher

Third-graders Police questioned a group of 8- and 9-year-olds at an
elementary school in Waycross. WeAPONS A broken steak knife, handcuffs,
duct tape and a paperweight were seized.


By Teresa Stepzinski, The Times-Union

WAYCROSS, Ga. - Police questioned a group of third-graders suspected in
a plot to kill their teacher at Center Elementary School on Monday,
apparently because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair.

       The nine students - girls and boys, 8 and 9 years old - are
too young to be charged with a crime under Georgia law, a prosecutor
told the Times-Union. Authorities withheld the students' names because
of their age and student privacy laws.

School officials rounded up the students Friday morning and alerted
police after another pupil tipped off a teacher that a girl, the
suspected mastermind, had brought a weapon to school, Police Chief Tony
Tanner said.

Police seized a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape, electrical
and transparent tape, ribbons and a crystal paperweight from the
students, who apparently intended to use them against the teacher,
Tanner said.

"We estimate between six to nine students were involved. ... We're not
sure at this point in the investigation how many of the students
actually knew the intent was to hurt the teacher," Tanner said.

 <Charlie> wrote in message

That made it to the news here Charlie.  Very sad.

 

When you put it that way, is is rather.

I hope so, but there are a few 30 year olds I'm still worrying aobut.  I
would have thought that by the age of 30, one would be beyond it.

I wonder if it might be gender related?  The girls I've known (and I had a
constant trail of the little floozies through the house not so many years
ago) all seemed to be able to figure it out (and since they thought I was
'cool', they talked to me about things they wouldn't talk to their parents
about).

Assuming of course that I recognise that the 'all about me age' group cannot
figure out consequences, which I'm not yet willing to do....
.
but he was aided by

I don't buy that 'aided and abetted by' theory Otter.  The little mongrel
shoul dhave had sufficient smarts to figure out what would happen, and even
if he somehow couldn't figure that out at the time of the party, he sure as
hell shuld have by the next day when all the shit fell on him.


I'd like to think so but I suspect given his nauseous and continuous past
party behaviour, that he won't.


LOL.  Why stop at 'teenage' male brains?  No, I didn't read it but it
doesn't surprise me.

i mean, we all

As opposed the kids who don't have genuine large problems?

Sorry, but I just don't buy that.  Being a kid is all about learning.  That
learning involved so much that I'm surprised that our brains haven't popped
by the time we reach early adulthood.

Everyone (be they child or adult) is always being let down by someone (be
that by a child or an adult) and it goes on our entire life.  Learning that
is one of the most basic facts about life.  Like 'stress' it's how one copes
with it that makes us the people we are.  Whining about it or reacting
inappropriately to being let down may be related to our
background/familial/societal surroundings but not in all cases -it's too
general to say that it comes from being 'let down'.

 i would point out that almost every recent study

Yeah but social cohesion across the whole of society or within ones society?

I'd agree that our entire society has certainly been deliberately fragmented
by bloody Howard (the louse used it as a social control mechanism), but
within societal groups within the larger society, the cohesion strengthened
in some cases (eg the Muslims banded together because they had to do so).

teenagers, amusingly, often think they are

I'm sure we do it all the time in one way or another.


I don't think we work nearly hard enough.  The Tampa was one of THE most
disgusting examples of rascism I've ever seen.  I nearly makes me puke when
I think that it was a deliberate ploy by a very nasty politician to get
himself and his government back into power and the Australian people were so
stupid that they not only believed it, but embraced it.

I had many arguments with my work collegues (who mostly aren't the best
informed bunch I know) who parroted the "queue jumper" line.   Stupid
bastards know nothing about how many illegal immigrants we have or how they
come into the country, but a few desperate refugees have then frothing at
the mouth and spouting rascist garbage.


:-))  OK. I'll settle for 'impressive'.

Pikelets with strawberry jam and cream??????

 
gosh, that was everyone's thought, wasn't it? nobody cried. actually, i'm
not sure it was even "news" - just the expected!

noticed the same thing last week that nobody gave a shit when that evil,
ranting fruitcake c. heston died - he'd already squandered any affection the
australian public might have had for him years ago. good riddance!
kylie