Posted by David Hare-Scott on November 23, 2010, 5:10 pm
Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little
red-brown on the front of the neck?
David
Posted by Loosecanon on November 23, 2010, 11:51 pm
> Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little
> red-brown on the front of the neck?
> David
I seem to remember (30 years ago) that the feathers on the neck were like
you describe. Usually the sign of a healthy bird. Bet they have really dark
red combs too.
Posted by FarmI on November 24, 2010, 8:12 pm
> Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a little
> red-brown on the front of the neck?
Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is one
good indicator of the true breeding).
If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd call
a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of my
Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green specturm (never
any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true Australorp will be all
black feathers.
I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read them
here:
http://www.australorps.com/4.html
I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new night
house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished it. Once this
one is done their current one will get removed too - after 30+ years of
keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick to death of substandard
chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce housing for my fancy.
Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good
service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic bird:
http://www.barterandsons.com.au/
Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes, but it
could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent.
Posted by David Hare-Scott on November 25, 2010, 5:02 pm
FarmI wrote:
>> Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a
>> little red-brown on the front of the neck?
> Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is
> one good indicator of the true breeding).
the legs are black
> If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd
> call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All of
> my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green
> specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true
> Australorp will be all black feathers.
It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the
feathers it's a true colour
> I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read
> them here:
> http://www.australorps.com/4.html
BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks but
what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds or
some crossbreed..
> I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new
> night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished
> it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too -
> after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick
> to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce
> housing for my fancy.
Mine isn't RR but maybe BMW. It's a secondhand garden shed with secondhand
tennis court wire around it. I figure any fox or wild dog that can eat
through that I don't want to face unarmed.
> Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good
> service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic
> bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/
> Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes,
> but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent.
Looks to me that they are 3/4 or maybe 7/8. Good looking birds
nevertheless, friendly and resourceful.
thanks
David
Posted by FarmI on November 26, 2010, 1:26 am
> FarmI wrote:
>>> Are pure bred Australorps 100% black or is it possible to have a
>>> little red-brown on the front of the neck?
>>
>> Australorps are pure black (including the flesh of the legs which is
>> one good indicator of the true breeding).
> the legs are black
>> If there is any degree of 'colour' in the feathers it is not what I'd
>> call a true colour but more of a sheen if/when caught in the light. All
>> of my Australorps have only ever had this sheen in the blue/green
>> specturm (never any reddisheness at all). If viewed in shade, a true
>> Australorp will be all black feathers.
>>
> It isn't the iridescent shine from light interference patterns in the
> feathers it's a true colour
>> I've just had a look at the breed standards and no red. You can read
>> them here:
>> http://www.australorps.com/4.html
>>
> BTDT I wasn't so much interested in whether I have show quality chooks
> but what their lineage might be, if they are pure bred but not show birds
> or > some crossbreed..
Regardless... those standards are still useful. They confirm to you that
your birds aren't pure breds.
>> I've just bought 4 more Australorps and am busy building them a new
>> night house after I got the irrits with the last one and demolished
>> it. Once this one is done their current one will get removed too -
>> after 30+ years of keeping chooks I've finally decided that I am sick
>> to death of substandard chook housing and I finally want Rolls Royce
>> housing for my fancy.
> Mine isn't RR but maybe BMW. It's a secondhand garden shed with
> secondhand tennis court wire around it. I figure any fox or wild dog that
> can eat through that I don't want to face unarmed.
>> Barter and sons at Luddenham are a reasonable source I've found - good
>> service, moderate price and seem to produce a true to type domestic
>> bird: http://www.barterandsons.com.au/
>>
>> Any red feathers suggests to me a hybrid with RIR or Isa brown genes,
>> but it could be a from a grandparent rather than a parent.
> Looks to me that they are 3/4 or maybe 7/8. Good looking birds
> nevertheless, friendly and resourceful.
And so long as they lay some eggs, that's all that's required in a domestic
chook. Although I know I'd still keep chooks even if they didn't lay.
> red-brown on the front of the neck?
> David