Posted by Jonno on October 20, 2009, 6:52 am
Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon
pollution in it created by human activity. Let's go for a walk along it.
The first 770 metres are Nitrogen.
The next 210 metres are Oxygen.
That's 980 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.
The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.
9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.
A few gases make up the first part of that last metre.
The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre - that's carbon dioxide. A bit
over one foot.
97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It's natural.
Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left.
Just over a centimetre - about half an inch.
That's the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into
the atmosphere.
And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.
Less than the thickness of a hair - out of a kilometre.
As a hair is to a kilometre - so is Australia's contribution to what Mr.
Rudd calls "Carbon Pollution".
Imagine Brisbane's new Gateway Bridge, ready to be opened by Mr. Rudd.
It's been polished, painted and scrubbed by an army of workers till its 1
kilometre length is surgically clean. Except that Mr. Rudd says we have a
huge problem, the bridge is polluted - there's a human hair on the roadway.
We'd laugh ourselves silly.
There are plenty of real pollution problems to worry about. It's hard to
imagine that Australia's contribution to carbon dioxide in the world's
atmosphere is one of the more pressing ones. And it's also hard to believe
that a new tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair away.
ETS is now being debated in Federal Parliament - is it too late for
reality to prevail?.
Posted by ted on October 20, 2009, 7:22 am
Jonno wrote:
> Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon
> pollution in it created by human activity. Let's go for a walk along it.
> The first 770 metres are Nitrogen.
> The next 210 metres are Oxygen.
> That's 980 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.
> The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.
> 9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.
> A few gases make up the first part of that last metre.
> The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre - that's carbon dioxide. A bit
> over one foot.
> 97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It's natural.
> Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left.
> Just over a centimetre - about half an inch.
> That's the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into
> the atmosphere.
> And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.
> Less than the thickness of a hair - out of a kilometre.
> As a hair is to a kilometre - so is Australia's contribution to what Mr.
> Rudd calls "Carbon Pollution".
> Imagine Brisbane's new Gateway Bridge, ready to be opened by Mr. Rudd.
> It's been polished, painted and scrubbed by an army of workers till its 1
> kilometre length is surgically clean. Except that Mr. Rudd says we have a
> huge problem, the bridge is polluted - there's a human hair on the roadway.
> We'd laugh ourselves silly.
> There are plenty of real pollution problems to worry about. It's hard to
> imagine that Australia's contribution to carbon dioxide in the world's
> atmosphere is one of the more pressing ones. And it's also hard to believe
> that a new tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair away.
> ETS is now being debated in Federal Parliament - is it too late for
> reality to prevail?.
>
reality has not prevail with our pollys on both sides for a long time
now and they did not all die of aids at number 96 smh what on earth will
you think of next
abigail
Posted by Jonno on October 20, 2009, 7:40 am
Well the producers certainly had problems Abigail...
I reckon I messed up, and apologise.
> Jonno wrote:
>> Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon
>> pollution in it created by human activity. Let's go for a walk along it.
>> The first 770 metres are Nitrogen.
>> The next 210 metres are Oxygen.
>> That's 980 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.
>> The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.
>> 9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.
>> A few gases make up the first part of that last metre.
>> The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre - that's carbon dioxide. A bit
>> over one foot.
>> 97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It's natural.
>> Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left.
>> Just over a centimetre - about half an inch.
>> That's the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into
>> the atmosphere.
>> And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.
>> Less than the thickness of a hair - out of a kilometre.
>> As a hair is to a kilometre - so is Australia's contribution to what Mr.
>> Rudd calls "Carbon Pollution".
>> Imagine Brisbane's new Gateway Bridge, ready to be opened by Mr. Rudd.
>> It's been polished, painted and scrubbed by an army of workers till its 1
>> kilometre length is surgically clean. Except that Mr. Rudd says we have a
>> huge problem, the bridge is polluted - there's a human hair on the
>> roadway.
>> We'd laugh ourselves silly.
>> There are plenty of real pollution problems to worry about. It's hard to
>> imagine that Australia's contribution to carbon dioxide in the world's
>> atmosphere is one of the more pressing ones. And it's also hard to
>> believe
>> that a new tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair
>> away.
>> ETS is now being debated in Federal Parliament - is it too late for
>> reality to prevail?.
>>
> reality has not prevail with our pollys on both sides for a long time now
> and they did not all die of aids at number 96 smh what on earth will you
> think of next
> abigail
Posted by atec 7 7 on October 20, 2009, 8:41 am
Jonno wrote:
> Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon
> pollution in it created by human activity. Let's go for a walk along it.
> The first 770 metres are Nitrogen.
> The next 210 metres are Oxygen.
> That's 980 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.
> The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.
> 9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.
> A few gases make up the first part of that last metre.
> The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre - that's carbon dioxide. A bit
> over one foot.
> 97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It's natural.
> Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left.
> Just over a centimetre - about half an inch.
> That's the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into
> the atmosphere.
> And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.
> Less than the thickness of a hair - out of a kilometre.
> As a hair is to a kilometre - so is Australia's contribution to what Mr.
> Rudd calls "Carbon Pollution".
> Imagine Brisbane's new Gateway Bridge, ready to be opened by Mr. Rudd.
> It's been polished, painted and scrubbed by an army of workers till its 1
> kilometre length is surgically clean. Except that Mr. Rudd says we have a
> huge problem, the bridge is polluted - there's a human hair on the roadway.
> We'd laugh ourselves silly.
> There are plenty of real pollution problems to worry about. It's hard to
> imagine that Australia's contribution to carbon dioxide in the world's
> atmosphere is one of the more pressing ones. And it's also hard to believe
> that a new tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair away.
> ETS is now being debated in Federal Parliament - is it too late for
> reality to prevail?.
>
Posted by Anne Chambers on October 21, 2009, 4:07 am
Jonno wrote:
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> There are plenty of real pollution problems to worry about. It's hard to
> imagine that Australia's contribution to carbon dioxide in the world's
> atmosphere is one of the more pressing ones. And it's also hard to believe
> that a new tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair away.
> ETS is now being debated in Federal Parliament - is it too late for
> reality to prevail?.
I'm quite confused about the ETS - I had a 1KW solar installation put on my roof
in April, mainly to try to
lower my ever-increasing electricity bill but also because of niggling worries
about my carbon footprint (the
jargon trips all-too-easily off my tongue); got the government's $8,000 rebate
(thanks Kevin) and then, out of
the blue, got another $800+ for carbon credits or somesuch. I'm not quite in my
dotage, so I reckon if the
installer had told me about that, I would have remembered. My qualifications
are in History, not Science -
which speaks a language I don't - but it seems to me that if I cut my carbon
footprint down and, by doing so,
through carbon credits enable someone else to continue ad hoc, all I am doing is
maintaining the status quo.
I'd also like to know what profit the purchaser of my carbon credits made by
selling them on to a power
station or whatever. It seems that once again, fat profits are being made by
the middleman - and if you can
prove me wrong, I'll be happy.
--
Anne Chambers
South Australia
totally out of her depth
anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com
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> pollution in it created by human activity. Let's go for a walk along it.
> The first 770 metres are Nitrogen.
> The next 210 metres are Oxygen.
> That's 980 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.
> The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.
> 9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.
> A few gases make up the first part of that last metre.
> The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre - that's carbon dioxide. A bit
> over one foot.
> 97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It's natural.
> Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left.
> Just over a centimetre - about half an inch.
> That's the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into
> the atmosphere.
> And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.
> Less than the thickness of a hair - out of a kilometre.
> As a hair is to a kilometre - so is Australia's contribution to what Mr.
> Rudd calls "Carbon Pollution".
> Imagine Brisbane's new Gateway Bridge, ready to be opened by Mr. Rudd.
> It's been polished, painted and scrubbed by an army of workers till its 1
> kilometre length is surgically clean. Except that Mr. Rudd says we have a
> huge problem, the bridge is polluted - there's a human hair on the roadway.
> We'd laugh ourselves silly.
> There are plenty of real pollution problems to worry about. It's hard to
> imagine that Australia's contribution to carbon dioxide in the world's
> atmosphere is one of the more pressing ones. And it's also hard to believe
> that a new tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair away.
> ETS is now being debated in Federal Parliament - is it too late for
> reality to prevail?.
>