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Trees and problems 2 symplastless 06-29-2008
Posted by symplastless on June 29, 2008, 8:05 pm
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Other than the spammers that interfered with the message last time here is
some useful information for caring people to help the better care for their
trees. This is short and brief information for people to help them
correctly care for their trees. My critics on her like Don Staples and
jangclub really do not understand trees and claim to be experts. Watch
them. While some of their information may be useful their lack of
understanding of tree biology makes them a poor choice for accurate
information regarding the ecological stages of trees and their associates.
I have been studying tree biology since 1991 and dissecting trees to better
understand them and treatments. Thus this makes my critics jealous or
something stimulating them to spam every post I make. Anyone interested in
learning and understanding treatments to trees and their associates should
first visited here: www.shigoandtrees.com he dissected more trees than
anyone on this list ever will. He had the credentials people like Staples
claim to have. personally I think he is a crook, he knows he's a crook, and
he isn't going to change. I myself like to explain to people some of the
features of trees I have learned by dissecting trees and studying under my
professor who was a world renown tree biologist. Watch them respond to
this.

Anyway trees are woody, shedding, perennial plants. Actually they are
annual parts growing on a perennial plant. Leaves, non-woody roots and
mycorrhizae are annual. Unless of course it's a mycorrhizae stacking.

Anyway I will continue to reach out to people to help them understand the
trees they want to help. If you want to hurt trees email somebody else.

Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/tree_planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.



Posted by June on June 29, 2008, 8:53 pm
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I'm posting this on this thread because I keep getting an error
message when I try to post a new threat. It says there is some missing
information, which there isn't. I have no idea why I keep getting that
when I try to post, so I'm posting this on the tree threat. I hope
someone can tell me why I keep getting that error message. I've signed
on fine, filled out the form correctly and still get that error
message. AARGH! Anyway, here's my tree/bush problems:

I've had a datura since last year and it has never bloomed. It was
overwintered indoors under grow light and it's been outdoors for about
six weeks. It's in a large pot, for it's size and in full sun. I can't
figure out why this thing hasn't bloomed.
about a week and a half ago I pruned it a bit, thinking that maybe
that would stimulate it.
I'd love some input on why this thing has never bloomed in a year and
some helpful hints on what I can do to get it to bloom.

Thanks!
June

Posted by Jangchub on June 29, 2008, 10:36 pm
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wrote:

>I'm posting this on this thread because I keep getting an error
>message when I try to post a new threat. It says there is some missing
>information, which there isn't. I have no idea why I keep getting that
>when I try to post, so I'm posting this on the tree threat. I hope
>someone can tell me why I keep getting that error message. I've signed
>on fine, filled out the form correctly and still get that error
>message. AARGH! Anyway, here's my tree/bush problems:
>
>I've had a datura since last year and it has never bloomed. It was
>overwintered indoors under grow light and it's been outdoors for about
>six weeks. It's in a large pot, for it's size and in full sun. I can't
>figure out why this thing hasn't bloomed.
>about a week and a half ago I pruned it a bit, thinking that maybe
>that would stimulate it.
>I'd love some input on why this thing has never bloomed in a year and
>some helpful hints on what I can do to get it to bloom.
>
>Thanks!
>June

Datura are in the nightshade family so it depends in part to night
temperatures to set up a bud to flower. They are also pretty heavy
feeders. Have you fertilized? With what and how often?

Posted by symplastless on June 29, 2008, 10:40 pm
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June

One thing you might try because you cannot mulch correctly in a pot. You
could fertilize with micro elements. I would stay away from too much
nitrogen because you do not want the tree to grow big and fast. The
microelement solution I use has very little nitrogen and has all of the
microelements that are essential. It has some biostimulants as well. This
would give the tree some of the elements it might be receiving in its
natural habitat.

If you are into pruning Shigo has two books. World wide photo guide and
Pruning Basics. One would probably be good for you and your tree. Try not
to over water. Just water enough to wet the nonwoody roots in the upper
four inches. I have to go.



--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.
> I'm posting this on this thread because I keep getting an error
> message when I try to post a new threat. It says there is some missing
> information, which there isn't. I have no idea why I keep getting that
> when I try to post, so I'm posting this on the tree threat. I hope
> someone can tell me why I keep getting that error message. I've signed
> on fine, filled out the form correctly and still get that error
> message. AARGH! Anyway, here's my tree/bush problems:
>
> I've had a datura since last year and it has never bloomed. It was
> overwintered indoors under grow light and it's been outdoors for about
> six weeks. It's in a large pot, for it's size and in full sun. I can't
> figure out why this thing hasn't bloomed.
> about a week and a half ago I pruned it a bit, thinking that maybe
> that would stimulate it.
> I'd love some input on why this thing has never bloomed in a year and
> some helpful hints on what I can do to get it to bloom.
>
> Thanks!
> June



Posted by June on June 30, 2008, 8:26 am
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> June
>
> One thing you might try because you cannot mulch correctly in a pot. =A0Yo=
u
> could fertilize with micro elements. =A0I would stay away from too much
> nitrogen because you do not want the tree to grow big and fast. =A0The
> microelement solution I use has very little nitrogen and has all of the
> microelements that are essential. =A0It has some biostimulants as well. =
=A0This
> would give the tree some of the elements it might be receiving in its
> natural habitat.
>
> If you are into pruning Shigo has two books. =A0World wide photo guide and=

> Pruning Basics. =A0One would probably be good for you and your tree. =A0Tr=
y not
> to over water. =A0Just water enough to wet the nonwoody roots in the upper=

> four inches. =A0I have to go.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> John A. Keslick, Jr.
> Consulting Tree Biologisthttp://home.ccil.org/~treeman
> and =A0www.treedictionary.com
> Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
> Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding =
us
> that we are not the boss.
> Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books tha=
t

>
>
>
>
> > I'm posting this on this thread because I keep getting an error
> > message when I try to post a new threat. It says there is some missing
> > information, which there isn't. I have no idea why I keep getting that
> > when I try to post, so I'm posting this on the tree threat. I hope
> > someone can tell me why I keep getting that error message. I've signed
> > on fine, filled out the form correctly and still get that error
> > message. AARGH! Anyway, here's my tree/bush problems:
>
> > I've had a datura since last year and it has never bloomed. It was
> > overwintered indoors under grow light and it's been outdoors for about
> > six weeks. It's in a large pot, for it's size and in full sun. I can't
> > figure out why this thing hasn't bloomed.
> > about a week and a half ago I pruned it a bit, thinking that maybe
> > that would stimulate it.
> > I'd love some input on why this thing has never bloomed in a year and
> > some helpful hints on what I can do to get it to bloom.
>
> > Thanks!
> > June- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for very good hints. I was afraid to fertilize it, fearing I'd
just get more leaf growth and still no bloom. I'll feed it today -
probably Miracle grow which I use only on ornamentals. I also have
osmocote; but I think I'll go for the fast fix! :-)
It may be getting too much water as my husband has been watering my
potted plants during my recovery from hip replacement; but I'm taking
over that chore now so between me watering a bit less and the
fertilizer, I'm hoping that I'll finally get blooms!

Warm regards,
June

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