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Re: What to do with heavy soil.. Ivan 08-18-2008
Posted by Ivan on August 18, 2008, 9:00 pm
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> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Marie Dodge"
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> >> Let's see. It's half past August now, how many nurseries in your
> >> area are having bare root sales Jang?
> >> --
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> >Snips!
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> > I live in zone 6 and anything bare root this time of year is DEAD.
>
> I think the original poster lives in the southern hemisphere, which
> would put them at the end of winter coming up soon.

That'd be correct -- End of winter in 10 days .. Though we've been
rather low temperatures with heavy rains and some frosts in the
morning, so I'm expecting winter climate to be around for another
month still.... :S
Ah well, that's a whole month more I get to prepare my garden!!

Though the trees in the nurseries are already flowering .. ....

Posted by Jangchub on August 18, 2008, 10:36 pm
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wrote:

>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Marie Dodge"
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Let's see. It's half past August now, how many nurseries in your
>> >> area are having bare root sales Jang?
>> >> --
>>
>> >Snips!
>>
>> > I live in zone 6 and anything bare root this time of year is DEAD.
>>
>> I think the original poster lives in the southern hemisphere, which
>> would put them at the end of winter coming up soon.
>
>That'd be correct -- End of winter in 10 days .. Though we've been
>rather low temperatures with heavy rains and some frosts in the
>morning, so I'm expecting winter climate to be around for another
>month still.... :S
>Ah well, that's a whole month more I get to prepare my garden!!
>
>Though the trees in the nurseries are already flowering .. ....

It is time to plant fruit trees now where you live. I plant them in
February about six weeks before spring officially arrives in March.
So, opposite from you. Did you know there is a newsgroup for Aussies?

Posted by Ivan on August 20, 2008, 6:09 pm
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> wrote:
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> >> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:19:50 -0500, "Marie Dodge"
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au...
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> >> >> Let's see. It's half past August now, how many nurseries in your
> >> >> area are having bare root sales Jang?
> >> >> --
>
> >> >Snips!
>
> >> > I live in zone 6 and anything bare root this time of year is DEAD.
>
> >> I think the original poster lives in the southern hemisphere, which
> >> would put them at the end of winter coming up soon.
>
> >That'd be correct -- End of winter in 10 days .. Though we've been
> >rather low temperatures with heavy rains and some frosts in the
> >morning, so I'm expecting winter climate to be around for another
> >month still.... :S
> >Ah well, that's a whole month more I get to prepare my garden!!
>
> >Though the trees in the nurseries are already flowering .. ....
>
> It is time to plant fruit trees now where you live. =A0I plant them in
> February about six weeks before spring officially arrives in March.
> So, opposite from you. =A0Did you know there is a newsgroup for Aussies?-=
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I didn't know there was an Australian newsgroup.
In any case, I dug a hole in the front yard.. And found that, after
digging about the depth of the spade, I started digging out gravel ..

I kept going as much as I could but didn't want to damage my shovel..

I filled the hole with water and .. About 15 minutes later, the water
was gone ..

Filled it up again, and .. It took about 20 minutes, but again, the
water was all gone ..

Perhaps it's not really as heavy with clay as I had originally
thought!

In any case, I dumped a bag of cow manure and some mushroom compost
and mixed it in a bit as much as I could with the soil in the hole ..
And will leave it open for a while ..
We're expecting heavy rains for the next day or two, so ....
I have no idea what that'll do, I'm hoping it'll mix a bit of the
manure and compost and spread it around a bit ....

Pebbles underground: good or bad?


Posted by Jangchub on August 20, 2008, 7:04 pm
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wrote:

>I didn't know there was an Australian newsgroup.
>In any case, I dug a hole in the front yard.. And found that, after
>digging about the depth of the spade, I started digging out gravel ..
>
>I kept going as much as I could but didn't want to damage my shovel..
>
>I filled the hole with water and .. About 15 minutes later, the water
>was gone ..
>
>Filled it up again, and .. It took about 20 minutes, but again, the
>water was all gone ..
>
>Perhaps it's not really as heavy with clay as I had originally
>thought!
>
>In any case, I dumped a bag of cow manure and some mushroom compost
>and mixed it in a bit as much as I could with the soil in the hole ..
>And will leave it open for a while ..
>We're expecting heavy rains for the next day or two, so ....
>I have no idea what that'll do, I'm hoping it'll mix a bit of the
>manure and compost and spread it around a bit ....
>
>Pebbles underground: good or bad?

Yes, it's aus.gardens if you'd like to find it.

I never recommend amending the soil you are planting in. It's better
to leave the soil as it is and to top dress the soil with some compost
and then mulch. When digging a hole, do not make a slick sided hole,
really jag it up to be rough. It will help roots to get out into that
soil which was not churned in planting.

Well draining soil is very good. When you plant the tree make sure
the trunk flare is well above the soil line. It's better to plant the
tree not deep enough, rather than too deeply which will eventually
kill the tree. Never mulch right up to the bark, but do mulch. You
can soak the bare root tree in luke warm water or room temperature
water over night before you plant it. Best of luck.

v

Posted by Ivan on August 20, 2008, 7:08 pm
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> wrote:
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> >I didn't know there was an Australian newsgroup.
> >In any case, I dug a hole in the front yard.. And found that, after
> >digging about the depth of the spade, I started digging out gravel ..
>
> >I kept going as much as I could but didn't want to damage my shovel..
>
> >I filled the hole with water and .. About 15 minutes later, the water
> >was gone ..
>
> >Filled it up again, and .. It took about 20 minutes, but again, the
> >water was all gone ..
>
> >Perhaps it's not really as heavy with clay as I had originally
> >thought!
>
> >In any case, I dumped a bag of cow manure and some mushroom compost
> >and mixed it in a bit as much as I could with the soil in the hole ..
> >And will leave it open for a while ..
> >We're expecting heavy rains for the next day or two, so ....
> >I have no idea what that'll do, I'm hoping it'll mix a bit of the
> >manure and compost and spread it around a bit ....
>
> >Pebbles underground: good or bad?
>
> Yes, it's aus.gardens if you'd like to find it.
>
> I =A0never recommend amending the soil you are planting in. =A0It's bette=
r
> to leave the soil as it is and to top dress the soil with some compost
> and then mulch. =A0 When digging a hole, do not make a slick sided hole,
> really jag it up to be rough. =A0It will help roots to get out into that
> soil which was not churned in planting. =A0
>
> Well draining soil is very good. =A0When you plant the tree make sure
> the trunk flare is well above the soil line. =A0It's better to plant the
> tree not deep enough, rather than too deeply which will eventually
> kill the tree. =A0Never mulch right up to the bark, but do mulch. =A0You
> can soak the bare root tree in luke warm water or room temperature
> water over night before you plant it. =A0Best of luck.
>
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I read that I should soak the tree in diluted seaweed solution, is
this correct?
What is a 'slick sided hole'?

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