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Question about peach trees.. Ivan 07-21-2008
Posted by Ivan on July 21, 2008, 5:11 pm
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Hi all,

Over a year ago I planted a peach (Prunus persica (L.) Batsch) tree in my back yard.
It was rather small back then, but has since grown to be approximately
1.8 meters (6") tall.
It grew an astonishing amount of leaves and I was extremely happy with
its process.
Winter came, and the leaves started to fall..
Though not all of them..
And now, winter is a month from being over, and lots of flowers
formed, but the tip of the branches still have all the leaves from
last year and flowers didn't get to them....


I'm sure the tree is growing fine and I'll probably get some fruit in
summer, but .... .. I didn't prune the tree in the fall.. Is it too
late to trim the branches now?
Should I pluck out the leaves that are still there?

Posted by David E. Ross on July 21, 2008, 8:15 pm
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On 7/21/2008 2:11 PM, Ivan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Over a year ago I planted a peach (Prunus persica (L.) Batsch) tree in my back yard.
> It was rather small back then, but has since grown to be approximately
> 1.8 meters (6") tall.
> It grew an astonishing amount of leaves and I was extremely happy with
> its process.
> Winter came, and the leaves started to fall..
> Though not all of them..
> And now, winter is a month from being over, and lots of flowers
> formed, but the tip of the branches still have all the leaves from
> last year and flowers didn't get to them....
>
>
> I'm sure the tree is growing fine and I'll probably get some fruit in
> summer, but .... .. I didn't prune the tree in the fall.. Is it too
> late to trim the branches now?
> Should I pluck out the leaves that are still there?

If it is already in flower, it is too late to prune. Leave the old
leaves. They will fall off as new leaves open.

If your winters are relatively mild, prune about two weeks after the
soltice (for me, early January). If your winters are icy with snow and
freezing temperatures, prune about two weeks before the equinox (early
March in the northern hemisphere).

As this is a new tree, be sure to remove the leader (the central trunk)
above the lowest branches. Stone fruits -- peaches, plums, cherries,
apricots -- should grow outward and not upward. Main branch crotches
should be at right angles to the trunk below; at least, they should form
Us and not Vs. When you next prune, remove old wood and keep wood that
was new during the recent growing season. Some say to remove an amount
of wood equal to 2/3 of the newer growth. Branch tips on new wood
should be cut to encourage further branching and not allow branches to
grow longer. I remove or cut short most vertical branches, pruning my
peach tree so that I don't have to climb a ladder to pick fruit.

Thinning of fruit is important for peaches. This is done shortly after
all flower petals fall. Try to allow 8-12 inches (20-30 cm) of branch
between fruits. Thinner branches should have fewer fruits. Thinning
prevents the weight of mature fruit from breaking the branches. More
important, thinning causes the remaining fruit to mature larger without
making the pits any larger. Thus, thinning can actually yield more
usable peach flesh than not thinning. I generally remove half of the
immature peaches when they are about the size of an almond in the shell.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>

Posted by Ivan on July 22, 2008, 5:30 pm
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> On 7/21/2008 2:11 PM, Ivan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > Over a year ago I planted a peach tree in my back yard.
> > It was rather small back then, but has since grown to be approximately
> > 1.8 meters (6") tall.
> > It grew an astonishing amount of leaves and I was extremely happy with
> > its process.
> > Winter came, and the leaves started to fall..
> > Though not all of them..
> > And now, winter is a month from being over, and lots of flowers
> > formed, but the tip of the branches still have all the leaves from
> > last year and flowers didn't get to them....
>
> > I'm sure the tree is growing fine and I'll probably get some fruit in
> > summer, but .... .. I didn't prune the tree in the fall.. Is it too
> > late to trim the branches now?
> > Should I pluck out the leaves that are still there?
>
> If it is already in flower, it is too late to prune. =A0Leave the old
> leaves. =A0They will fall off as new leaves open.
>
> If your winters are relatively mild, prune about two weeks after the
> soltice (for me, early January). =A0If your winters are icy with snow and
> freezing temperatures, prune about two weeks before the equinox (early
> March in the northern hemisphere).
>
> As this is a new tree, be sure to remove the leader (the central trunk)
> above the lowest branches. =A0Stone fruits -- peaches, plums, cherries,
> apricots -- should grow outward and not upward. =A0Main branch crotches
> should be at right angles to the trunk below; at least, they should form
> Us and not Vs. =A0When you next prune, remove old wood and keep wood that
> was new during the recent growing season. =A0Some say to remove an amount
> of wood equal to 2/3 of the newer growth. =A0Branch tips on new wood
> should be cut to encourage further branching and not allow branches to
> grow longer. =A0I remove or cut short most vertical branches, pruning my
> peach tree so that I don't have to climb a ladder to pick fruit.
>
> Thinning of fruit is important for peaches. =A0This is done shortly after
> all flower petals fall. =A0Try to allow 8-12 inches (20-30 cm) of branch
> between fruits. =A0Thinner branches should have fewer fruits. =A0Thinning
> prevents the weight of mature fruit from breaking the branches. =A0More
> important, thinning causes the remaining fruit to mature larger without
> making the pits any larger. =A0Thus, thinning can actually yield more
> usable peach flesh than not thinning. =A0I generally remove half of the
> immature peaches when they are about the size of an almond in the shell.
>
> --
> David E. Ross
> Climate: =A0California Mediterranean
> Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
> influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
> Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Perfect!
Thanks very much for your detailed answer.
It seems as if though my trunk is extremely short in comparison to the
branches..
And all the branches are springing up..
But there are only three branches coming out of the trunk of the tree,
and the rest of the branches spring out of these three ..
The tree was given to me by my father.. Not sure where he got it , but
am hoping it is, in fact, a peach tree!
The leaves look different on each of the three branches, and the
flowers are too, so.... I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes
out..
In any case .. You've certainly answered my concerns about prunning,
which I will do next June .. And remember to pull out some of the
peaches before they mature ..

I'll see if I can get some more information about the tree,
alternatively, I'll certainly put up results once the fruit start
appearing!!

Just a quick question:
When should I be adding fertiliser to the tree?
I read at the beginning of spring and end of autumn.. IS this correct?

Posted by David E. Ross on July 22, 2008, 7:58 pm
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On 7/22/2008 2:30 PM, Ivan wrote [in part]:
> It seems as if though my trunk is extremely short in comparison to the
> branches..

This is good.

> And all the branches are springing up..
> But there are only three branches coming out of the trunk of the tree,
> and the rest of the branches spring out of these three ..

When you do prune, keep the main branches and shorten the others.

> The leaves look different on each of the three branches, and the
> flowers are too, so.... I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes
> out..

You might have a "top worked" tree. This is a tree on which different
varieties have been grafted to the same trunk. While this is not done
for commercial orchards, it is indeed well known for home gardens.

You might even have different species from the same genus: peach, plum,
nectarine, almond, etc. I've also heard of this being done for the pome
fruits: apple, pear, etc. My mother once had a rose bush with three
varieties of rose grafted to a young apple trunk (roses being related to
apples).

> Just a quick question:
> When should I be adding fertiliser to the tree?
> I read at the beginning of spring and end of autumn.. IS this correct?

I feed in the spring, just as leaves begin to open. I rarely feed
anything in the autumn. Nutrients promote new growth, which will not
happen with deciduous plants (e.g., peaches) and which will be too
tender for frost with evergreen plants (e.g., citrus). Yes, we do get
night-time frosts every winter. (But I haven't seen snow here in over
10 years and only three times in the 35 years I've been in my current
house.)

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>

Posted by D. Staples on July 22, 2008, 8:59 pm
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> On 7/21/2008 2:11 PM, Ivan wrote:

Perfect!
Thanks very much for your detailed answer.
It seems as if though my trunk is extremely short in comparison to the
branches..
And all the branches are springing up..
But there are only three branches coming out of the trunk of the tree,
and the rest of the branches spring out of these three ..
The tree was given to me by my father.. Not sure where he got it , but
am hoping it is, in fact, a peach tree!
The leaves look different on each of the three branches, and the
flowers are too, so.... I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes
out..
In any case .. You've certainly answered my concerns about prunning,
which I will do next June .. And remember to pull out some of the
peaches before they mature ..

I'll see if I can get some more information about the tree,
alternatively, I'll certainly put up results once the fruit start
appearing!!

Just a quick question:
When should I be adding fertiliser to the tree?
I read at the beginning of spring and end of autumn.. IS this correct?

You may have a "show" tree with different fruits grafted onto one trunk,
your description of the leaves and flowers are similar to just that type of
tree in my side yard.



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